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Stupid wrote:Sorry, guns are NOT there to prevent crimes. They may serve as a deteriant and defense, but not prevention.

Situation awareness and knowing what to do when things aren't right are far more important. ...

Stu, I think you were the first person to mention "prevent" in this thread, unless someone edited it out. I think we all get a little too caught up in semantics anyway.
Technically, I think that prevent is still a useable term. To stop someone from doing something. Even though a crime may already have been started, the resulting outcome may be (more likely) stopped from happening with a defensive weapon. In other words, prevented.

Also, you can, and should, practice situational awareness even if you don't have a gun.

I consider myself fortunate in that my wife won't let me go to the range without her now, and we really only started going to the range about a year ago. I had inherited a G19 when my father passed and kept mentioning that I wanted to take it to the range, but since she had never been to one she wanted to go with me just to see what it was like. That one trip is all it took. She wouldn't let anyone else teach her so I took it SLOW and with ZERO pressure, as I wanted every trip to be 100% fun (I figured I would get her "blessing" to go more often that way, too!).

Also, at least until SHE says she's ready, don't attempt to have her shoot anything other than a .22 to start off with. Kathy was hesitant to shoot a 9mm, so we started at .22 and then worked up to .380 (a little Bersa Thunder I believe). By that time, I told her that due to the .380's smaller size, it actually had more muzzle flip than the GLOCK 19, so she finally gave it a try and loved it. She now has her own Walther P99-QA 9mm (among others) and gives my Colt 1911 .45 a lustful eye everytime she shoots it. Although I don't have a .44 Mag. anymore (though it shouldn't be too much longer before I can rectify that), she'll probably like it, too!

Seriously though, I think the both of you are definately on the right track. My wife doesn't like to hunt, but she loves to target shoot and has become a pretty darn good shot for someone that basically just started less than a year ago. Although I hope to never see the day when she might have to use a gun in self-defence, at least now we both feel more comfortable knowing she knows how to use it, and will if she has to. And, we're getting better all the time!

I have never had a problem with RKBA, but was intimidated by guns for years. My dad had been hounding me since I was 20 yrs old to sign up for a CHL class. (I turned 20 four months before the CHL became legal in TX.) He finally called one day last year and said, "There's a CHL class in Nederland. Here's the date & time. Can I call him and sign you up?"

He caught me off guard, but I told him I would take it if he would meet me at the range for practice (so I wouldn't humiliate myself). And I've been learning ever since.

I think its great that she wants to take responsibility for her own safety. I wish more women would.

I agree with the others that a class would be beneficial to her. I would advise her to take a class that's geared toward women. We have our own host of concerns that men just don't have to worry much about.

This forum hosts a shooting and learning day once a year. Last year, it was on September 30, and I learned so much. Lots of women show up.
Many people come in from out of town; some are considering a group rate at a local hotel for this year. I know its a good six months away, but consider taking a little family weekend trip down here.

The CHL class I took was a joke. The instructor just read everything off the little law book. There's no safety training either. I should have brought a different book with me to kill time.

Anybody who knew how to pull a trigger passed. Some brought in guns with rust - hurt me even thinking about this right now. Someone also shot up my targert.

Hey, but it's cheap so I must not complain.

Stupid wrote:Hey, but it's cheap so I must not complain.

Mine sure wasn't. By the time I gave the DPS their share and the class instructor his (which was cheap at $75 compared to many others, but was 100% quality through and through), and at 2x (my wife's fees included), I had quite a fair amount invested. I guess like a lot of other things though, you get what you pay for!

Mine is $100. DPS is extra.

sparx wrote:

Stupid wrote:Hey, but it's cheap so I must not complain.

Mine sure wasn't. By the time I gave the DPS their share and the class instructor his (which was cheap at $75 compared to many others, but was 100% quality through and through), and at 2x (my wife's fees included), I had quite a fair amount invested. I guess like a lot of other things though, you get what you pay for!

Stupid wrote:Mine is $100. DPS is extra.

sparx wrote:

Stupid wrote:Hey, but it's cheap so I must not complain.

Mine sure wasn't. By the time I gave the DPS their share and the class instructor his (which was cheap at $75 compared to many others, but was 100% quality through and through), and at 2x (my wife's fees included), I had quite a fair amount invested. I guess like a lot of other things though, you get what you pay for!

Then I wouldn't have considered yours cheap, either... I guess maybe I'm just not rich enough to not complain about the cost of getting a CHL in Texas, as they ain't cheap to me!

Stupid wrote: OK, I would start with:
1. moving to a better apartment
2. Read the book "Strong on defense"
3. Some serious gun safety
4. Go with the CHL
5. Read the book "In the gravest extreme" and "On Killing"
6. Buy a gun

I'm with Stupid.

Geister wrote:I'm with Stupid.

Ha! I get it.