Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:02 pm
He might want to consider keeping a shotgun in a handy spot in the shop as well.
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A shotgun won't do him much good if a BG sneaks up on him while he's working with noisy machinery. He needs to find a way to lock himself in and/or find a work buddy.stroo wrote:He might want to consider keeping a shotgun in a handy spot in the shop as well.
Might I suggest a big dog.......Venus Pax wrote:
A shotgun won't do him much good if a BG sneaks up on him while he's working with noisy machinery. He needs to find a way to lock himself in and/or find a work buddy.
Yeah, but from what I've been reading there are a lot of renegade police and DAs who are not accepting the law for what it is. One may actually be legally justified in carrying, but there is no winning this. The charged still gets to spend some quality time in jail and spend big bucks on ;lawyers. Being found innocent can be of little comfort.txinvestigator wrote:Texas law also makes UCW (Unlawful carrying weapons, TPC 46.02) non-applicable if the person is traveling. Under 46.15, a person is presumed to be traveling if the person meets 5 requirements;TIN BENDER wrote:Liberty,
Thank you. Now another concern. What about transporting a weapon in your vehicle with no CHL ? Locked in the trunk? Under the seat ? Glove box? What does he do ? My guess is GET CERTIFIED and CONCEAL . What do you think?
1) in a private motor vehicle
2) The handgun is concealed
3) The person is not a member of a criminal street gang
4) The person is not engaged in other criminal activity (other than traffic offenses, etc)
5) The person is not otherwise prohibited from being in possession of a firearm under federal law
If the person meets those 5, then the person is traveling.
However, obtaining a CHL is easy, and he will learn the Texas use of force laws, etc.
NO, you have NOT read that there are a lot of renegade police. 2 or 3 prosecutors have made it clear that they will prosecute, but none in the Dallas area. I have spoken to many officers from different agencies about this, and they all know the law and have no problem with it.Liberty wrote:Yeah, but from what I've been reading there are a lot of renegade police and DAs who are not accepting the law for what it is. One may actually be legally justified in carrying, but there is no winning this. The charged still gets to spend some quality time in jail and spend big bucks on ;lawyers. Being found innocent can be of little comfort.txinvestigator wrote:Texas law also makes UCW (Unlawful carrying weapons, TPC 46.02) non-applicable if the person is traveling. Under 46.15, a person is presumed to be traveling if the person meets 5 requirements;TIN BENDER wrote:Liberty,
Thank you. Now another concern. What about transporting a weapon in your vehicle with no CHL ? Locked in the trunk? Under the seat ? Glove box? What does he do ? My guess is GET CERTIFIED and CONCEAL . What do you think?
1) in a private motor vehicle
2) The handgun is concealed
3) The person is not a member of a criminal street gang
4) The person is not engaged in other criminal activity (other than traffic offenses, etc)
5) The person is not otherwise prohibited from being in possession of a firearm under federal law
If the person meets those 5, then the person is traveling.
However, obtaining a CHL is easy, and he will learn the Texas use of force laws, etc.
I was looking through this thread and saw this wonderful answer to the issue...The issue is not about the method of how your friend wants to protect himself while working his "machinery"...seamusTX wrote:Why does he need the door open? Ventilation?TIN BENDER wrote:Friend wants to open a business machine shop in a leased building ,warehouse dist.
He will be working alone at night with the overhead door open.
If so, he can put a locked fence across the opening. I've seen these things. They look like the gate you put at the top of the stairs when you have babies in the house, but made of steel.
With loud machinery and concentrating on his work, someone could sneak up on him before he knew what was happening.
- Jim
I respectfuly disagree with your instructor, I think the five requirement's for the presumption made it perfectly clear.TIN BENDER wrote: My CHL instructor believes that THE TRAVELER has never been defined in our TEXAS SYSTEM. I'm sure we all can find that GRAY Area Here. I'll hire a lawyer if ever needed. Hope not.
Thank all of you.
I tried to respond to this last night and it got blown away twice on me.txinvestigator wrote: NO, you have NOT read that there are a lot of renegade police. 2 or 3 prosecutors have made it clear that they will prosecute, but none in the Dallas area. I have spoken to many officers from different agencies about this, and they all know the law and have no problem with it.
However, if you notice, I DID suggest he obtain a CHL.
I would be interested to read about those cases of cops arresting people who met the 5 requirements, since you know about them.Liberty wrote:I tried to respond to this last night and it got blown away twice on me.txinvestigator wrote: NO, you have NOT read that there are a lot of renegade police. 2 or 3 prosecutors have made it clear that they will prosecute, but none in the Dallas area. I have spoken to many officers from different agencies about this, and they all know the law and have no problem with it.
However, if you notice, I DID suggest he obtain a CHL.
Hey, I don't know how ytou know wjhat I've been reading. You looking over my shoulder or something!!! .. But there were 14 or more prosecuters and DAs all from different different countys mentioned in the article in the TSRA page see http://www.tsra.com Click on above the law. Yes cops are arresting and charging folks at least in Houston area with UCW that meet the 5 requirements claiming the courts can sort it out.
ElGato wrote:I respectfuly disagree with your instructor, I think the five requirement's for the presumption made it perfectly clear.TIN BENDER wrote: My CHL instructor believes that THE TRAVELER has never been defined in our TEXAS SYSTEM. I'm sure we all can find that GRAY Area Here. I'll hire a lawyer if ever needed. Hope not.
Thank all of you.