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90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?baldeagle wrote:90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
Dunno... Are we sure 10% of gun owners didn't lie and say they didn't own any guns?handog wrote:How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?baldeagle wrote:90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
They may have. They could have buried their guns in the back yard. Making them all but useless. If so, they gave up their right to keep and bear arms. Bear meaning hold or carry. So much for the blood bath scenario.Dave2 wrote:Dunno... Are we sure 10% of gun owners didn't lie and say they didn't own any guns?handog wrote:How about the outright confiscation during Katrina. Where were the 10% ?baldeagle wrote:90 million Americans own guns. If 10% of them refuse to give them up, that's 9 million people. Where's the government going to put them all? I think outright confiscation will lead to civil war, and the government will lose in that case. 9 million motivated gun owners is about 7 times the total US military strength. Some of those military will not shoot Americans, and many of those 9 million are veterans of wars. The bloodbath would be horrible, and the government would not hold the moral high ground.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
Remember, treaty requires 2/3 of the Senate to ratify.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...RockingRook wrote: I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.
Do you mean like the Kyoto Treaty that the EPA is currently implementing?Tim_the_Bald wrote:Remember, treaty requires 2/3 of the Senate to ratify.handog wrote:Oboma is being under esimated here. Before the end of his next term he will make some sort of end run around the Constitusion to ban guns in the US. Perhapse a treaty with the UN. Whatever it takes. Turn them in or go to jail. Mark my words.
I wish my kayak didn't tip over/turtle so easily ...Rugrash wrote:What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...RockingRook wrote: I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.
If it ever came to confiscation, I am not going to play the "boating accident" card. I'll be quite up front in saying, they are mine, you cannot have them. If you want them, come and try to take them.RPB wrote:I wish my kayak didn't tip over/turtle so easily ...Rugrash wrote:What wasn't lost in my boating accident was recently sold off at the GRB gun show in Houston...RockingRook wrote: I used to have 8 long guns, and 7 handguns. I gave all my long guns to my son and am left with 4 handguns.
I think your friend is out of touch with the bosses in Austin. Texas still doesn't have school carry, not even the watered down version limited to universities. Austin won't allow Texans with a carry license to carry handguns openly, when most other states with carry licenses do. Many of those states even allow UNLICENSED citizens to carry openly while in Texas you can lose your carry license and do jail time for not hiding your handgun.philip964 wrote:One of my friends has suggested that gun confiscation might be the one thing that would actually cause Texas to secede from the union.
First, the military and LEO's follow the orders of those appointed over them, and if the law calls for gun confiscation, then they WILL do as they are ordered and attempt to confiscate guns.LSUTiger wrote:This is the same type of feedback I have received from my ex-military and LEO buddies. I hope what they say is true, that for the most part the LE and Military won't enforce gun confiscation.