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Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:37 pm
by Oldgringo
Jumping Frog wrote:Oldgringo wrote:This is not the time, nor the place, to make light of another cowardly, gun caused murder. In fact, there is no time nor any place for yukkin' it up over any senseless murder; especially, when the victims were risking their lives to save the property and perhaps lives of others.
My symphathies to the familes and the community.

There is a difference between making the sarcastic observation that nonsensical gun laws are useless versus "yukkin' it up". Obviously, no one is laughing at the poor souls who were murdered.
Thank you for pointing out that difference. The 'laughing Wave' Smileys, now removed, sorta' confused me.
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:42 pm
by RPB
I contend that the murders were not "caused by" a fire, a gun, nor a hammer.
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:13 pm
by seamusTX
A woman in New York state was arrested today in connection with this case. She is accused of purchasing the weapons that were used in the crime. The complaint was filed by the U.S. attorney in U.S. district court.
She says that she bought them for her own use, and they were stolen from her vehicle. However, there is no record of her reporting the theft. According to the complaint there is other evidence that she made a straw purchase on behalf of the deceased murderer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyreg ... e-say.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty in court, but federal charges pretty much end your life as you knew it.
- Jim
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:31 pm
by Heartland Patriot
seamusTX wrote:A woman in New York state was arrested today in connection with this case. She is accused of purchasing the weapons that were used in the crime. The complaint was filed by the U.S. attorney in U.S. district court.
She says that she bought them for her own use, and they were stolen from her vehicle. However, there is no record of her reporting the theft. According to the complaint there is other evidence that she made a straw purchase on behalf of the deceased murderer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyreg ... e-say.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty in court, but federal charges pretty much end your life as you knew it.
- Jim
And once again, there is already a law in place...it should be enforced. The woman bought guns in a straw purchase for a felon...PROSECUTE HER for the CRIME SHE COMMITTED. It won't bring anyone back, that is true. But it should be PUBLICIZED that its a crime (not that the person buying doesn't know that) just to remind people that there are laws already...but of course, that doesn't help the cause of the leftwing gun banners and their media vulture cronies.
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:58 pm
by seamusTX
Heartland Patriot wrote:But it should be PUBLICIZED that its a crime (not that the person buying doesn't know that) just to remind people that there are laws already...
Unfortunately the people who are likely to be straw buyers don't read the New York Times. They probably don't even watch TV news. They tend to be whatever kind of woman is attracted to thugs, or desperate people who will do anything for a few bucks.
Probably all the highly publicized shootings in the past month involved weapons that were legally purchased from an FFL by the shooter or a relative, or in this case a straw buyer. They had nothing to do with the "gun show loophole" or private purchases.
- Jim
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:45 pm
by Dad24GreatKids
seamusTX wrote:A woman in New York state was arrested today in connection with this case. She is accused of purchasing the weapons that were used in the crime. The complaint was filed by the U.S. attorney in U.S. district court.
She says that she bought them for her own use, and they were stolen from her vehicle. However, there is no record of her reporting the theft. According to the complaint there is other evidence that she made a straw purchase on behalf of the deceased murderer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/29/nyreg ... e-say.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
All suspects are considered innocent until proven guilty in court, but federal charges pretty much end your life as you knew it.
- Jim
According to Foxnews.com, she has admitted to buying the guns for Spengler.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/29/ne ... latestnews
Re: 4 Firefighter shot, 2 dead...
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:55 pm
by seamusTX
She's toast.
- Jim