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Posted: **Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:48 pm**

Lucky45 wrote:Thanks G.C.Montgomery for the comments. Glad to see someone not acting like they are completely passive in this world.

You know what is amazing is that some people in here can't recognize sarcasm and are such sheeple. I can't think out loud for heaven's sake!!!

To think that was going to slap someone for real is crazy.

P.S. Especially without doing an administrative reload first.

FWIW, I'm sure most do see the sarcasm. But the fact is, it's a public forum and there is Chas' ten year old daughter rule. Being that this is a public forum, we must maintain the appearance of being civil ladies and gents. Things you post on public forums can come back to bite you later and can reflect poorly on our community as a whole.

As an example, your posts may simply set a bad first impression before you meet someone at CHL Forum Day. Another example, however unlikely, might be reference checks for potential employment. This is already biting thousands of college grads in the rear. And in the extreme, your posts on a public forum may be discoverable in criminal and civil procedings. No disrespect to our resident counselors but, lawyers are some sneaky buzzards and will use anything and everything you have ever done or said against you in court. And finally, we've all seen the political and social whirlwind caused by Jim Zumbo's blog and the damage it did to his career and our common cause.

I say this only because I was in the same spot not long ago on another forum. I vented out loud after being infuriated by the non-malicious actions of an LEO. Fact is, it was one straw too many on the camel's back rather than the direct actions of the officer that enraged me. Wrong day, wrong time, and fingers moving faster than my brain. While I had every right to be ticked off and every right to vent, it wasn't in my best interest to post my angry ramblings in public.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:45 am**

Hehe, had this happen once. Promptly packed up and called it a day. Granted, I'm no expert Marksman, but that's my point in going to the range...to practice. But even on my worst day, my rounds hit my target and that's that.

Kind of scary. But then, what would be the protocol for this type of situation? I would think a Range Officer could remove the individual due to safety.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:55 am**

First time I shot to qualify for my TX CHL, another student in the class put one low on my target and kept me from getting a perfect score . . . with most of my shots going through one ragged hole thanks to the number of rounds fired at 3 and 7 yards, it wasn't possible to get an accurate count. (She DID miss her own target entirely eight times, and still qualified.

)

Things can be worse . . . IIRC, in the last Olympics, a U.S. competitor was in line to win a gold medal in smallbore rifle shooting, until he shot a round on the wrong target.

Ouch.

It's annoying, but there are things in life worth getting angry over, and things not worth getting angry over. Accidental shots on the wrong target are in the latter category.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:36 am**

Lucky,

I was quite annoyed... but my situation was rather different... I was shooting for qualification for CHL Instructor something that IMHO is different from being on the range burning powder.

Instructors are "supposed" to be experienced shooters and should not be messing up other people's targets during qualifications... which of course are for record. Also keep in mind Instructors have to shoot a 90% score to qualify... so a few errant rounds could cause someone to fail to qualify fairly easily.

Just shooting on the range I would not let it worry me... In fact yesterday I had a beginner on the range shoot one of my targets... it simply was not a big deal. The situation was the difference.

V/r

Chuck

Lucky45 wrote:
cxm wrote:
Still I was seriously burned up over the incident.

Hey CXM,
I guess you and I are in the same boat. I guess it is a crime to be ticked off that some contributed to the wasting of your time and .45 ammo and not being able to figure out what correction you need to make in your practice session.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:50 am**

Lucky45 wrote:<snip>
this guy sets up next to me
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I realised that this guy was shooting at my target.
<snip>

Depending on circumstances, it may be interesting to put a few bullseyes into his target. Maybe "help" him create a small ragged hole in the center. You'll make him really happy for the day :)

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:02 am**

Lucky45 wrote:
Also, TXI
Then don't assume that they were new either, these guys came in with the swagger, their gear all decked out and the cocky look. So you think they would advice and schooling from me.

Plus, I know deep down you love me ,TXi that is why I speak my mind. For some reason, you think that it means I will act on it. So I feel like a target now. Anyway, don't take confidence for arrogance. Don't take my silence for ignorance.

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I do like you. I am just direct. You came and asked our opinions, and it doesn't make sense to argue about them when you get them.

I don't think your situation justified the level of anger you demonstrated here, that's all.

G.C.Montgomery is right. I know a Police Officer who is under fire from his department and a defense attorney over his postings on a secure area of a message board. Never mind he never posted anything hostile or hateful, but they are examining every post he ever made.

Imagine if you are in a use of force scenario, and the prosecution reads here that someone simply shooting a few holes in your target made you mad enough to "pimp slap" the guy. Your "reasonableness" could then be in question with the prosecution.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:14 am**

txinvestigator wrote:
I do like you. I am just direct.

OH OH...OH OH ...he loves me!!!
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Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:17 am**

Let's keep it civil, folks.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:56 am**

I've done this more times than I care to admit.

Luckelly the guy on the other side of me was a good sport about it. Now, whenever I shoot long ranges, I have an old ratty (bullet ridden) baseball cap I attach to the top of my target. Makes it blindingly obvious to me which target i'm supposed to be shooting

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:21 pm**

Lucky45 wrote:
9mmGuy wrote:do you really think he was doing it just despite you. if you were that mad just go tell the range officer. im sure he would ask the person to move to another lane and may give you another target. no harm in that...
No. Just that after not going to range in a long time, he just messed up my experience and I was reduced to shooting at one target for the rest of the session. Do you know what a paper target looks like when hit my multiple 45ACP rounds. It starts to tear apart with big holes. Not small hole like 9mm. So where did my bullet go; through the hole, through the tears, off the target????? I was just contributing to the lead poisoning of the backstop and wasting my time and money. That was why I was ticked.

O look at me I'm more of a man cause i shoot a 45... it makes a bigger hole in a piece of paper give me a break. One of the reasons i shoot 9 is cause the ammo is cheaper and i can go to the range more often and practice. man i wasnt trying to sound "sheeple", offend you, or tell you how to handle your own business. I just dont see why you got so bent out of shape about a couple extra holes in a piece of paper. plus extra targets are like a dollar.

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 9:23 pm**

GlockenHammer wrote:Let's keep it civil, folks.

If you cannot be civil in a debate on a forum you have not business carrying!

Posted: **Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:26 pm**

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