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Re: Leet's Give Up on the Constitution NY Times Editorial

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:35 pm
by VMI77
JALLEN wrote:Where does the Constitution force people "to give up their moral and political judgments?"

The Constitution sets up the structure of the federal government, divvying up the various powers and duties. Congressmen get two year terms, Senators get 6, the President 4 etc. Judges serve for life during good behavior.

The Bill of Rights doesn't force anybody to do anything. Completely to the contrary, it forces the government to limit what it can do to us.
Everywhere. For one thing, they can't legally just imprison or murder those who disagree with them. By giving up their moral and political judgements all they mean is that they can't legally impose their will on those of whom they'd like to impose their will.

Re: Leet's Give Up on the Constitution NY Times Editorial

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:39 pm
by VMI77
RoyGBiv wrote:If you can get past the bad feelings that his title brings, the author asks some valid questions, IMO.
If we are not to abandon constitutionalism entirely, then we might at least understand it as a place for discussion, a demand that we make a good-faith effort to understand the views of others, rather than as a tool to force others to give up their moral and political judgments.
Obama is "The Great Divider".
Never in my lifetime have I experienced the effect of someone so uniquely unqualified to lead a great nation.
He's not speaking English, he's speaking collectivist, so you can't interpret what he says by a normal understanding of English. By understand the views of others, he doesn't mean his bunch understanding our views, he means forcing us to either agree with or submit to his views. That's why he says the Constitution is a tool to force others (him and his bunch) into giving up their moral and political judgements: for the world to be right, he wants his bunch to have the power work their will upon the rest of us.