It didn't take him long...

[gguess66]

When are mid-term elections?

I am scared if the Republicans mess it up we could have a super majority again, that got us Obamacare, that could also get us Gun Control.

[mamabearCali]

I will be interested to see what happens once Obama is not on the ballot anymore. Don't forget y'all that he has a personality cult following. So when the progressives dont have their golden boy on stage can they still pull it off. I dunno. People love Obama but hate things he has done. So when the dems have to run on their record and people are no longer fainting in the isle. How will the dems do?

[chasfm11]

I will be interested to see what happens once Obama is not on the ballot anymore. Don't forget y'all that he has a personality cult following. So when the progressives dont have their golden boy on stage can they still pull it off. I dunno. People love Obama but hate things he has done. So when the dems have to run on their record and people are no longer fainting in the isle. How will the dems do?

Just as well. Here's why.

1. Hillary has a cult following. Granted, it is not as large and not as impassioned as the one for BO but it exists and it is formidable.
2. The Dems are winning the battle through social media. I assume that the same social media strategy that was used by Obama would be available to Hillary.
3. Many of the Democratic votes are actually votes against any Republican. These are generally come from "one issue" voters. An example is a Jewish couple that we know who dislike what Obama has done on Israel but voted for him because they are strong pro-choice. They would never ever vote for someone who even whispered at being pro-life. The Dems have done an outstanding job of demonizing the GOP on single issues in their various constituencies
4. Demographics are working against white voters. CA will have more Hispanics than any other group and it will take an unusual GOP candidate to attract them. Black voters have also been turned off to the GOP for a long time. This is pure politics and divisive tactics but it is working.

[mamabearCali]

I will be interested to see what happens once Obama is not on the ballot anymore. Don't forget y'all that he has a personality cult following. So when the progressives dont have their golden boy on stage can they still pull it off. I dunno. People love Obama but hate things he has done. So when the dems have to run on their record and people are no longer fainting in the isle. How will the dems do?

Just as well. Here's why.

1. Hillary has a cult following. Granted, it is not as large and not as impassioned as the one for BO but it exists and it is formidable.
2. The Dems are winning the battle through social media. I assume that the same social media strategy that was used by Obama would be available to Hillary.
3. Many of the Democratic votes are actually votes against any Republican. These are generally come from "one issue" voters. An example is a Jewish couple that we know who dislike what Obama has done on Israel but voted for him because they are strong pro-choice. They would never ever vote for someone who even whispered at being pro-life. The Dems have done an outstanding job of demonizing the GOP on single issues in their various constituencies
4. Demographics are working against white voters. CA will have more Hispanics than any other group and it will take an unusual GOP candidate to attract them. Black voters have also been turned off to the GOP for a long time. This is pure politics and divisive tactics but it is working.

But they have done terribly crappy in the 2009 governors races, the 2010 mid terms. I think Hillary is out. She is sick. You can see it in her face. She has had to get a note what is it three times now to not appear before congress. Bill said she is doing great, as he is incapable of telling the truth I would bet she is not doing well at all.

Just cause the dems have done well on social media does not mean that the other side cannot learn.

One the one issue democrat voters...can't help stupid...perhaps if the bad policies of Obama punch them in the nose they will pay attention.

You say that about demographics, but black Americans are aborting themselves out of existence. Seriously, when 50% of black pregnancies end in abortion that is a really bad thing. They have been loyal to Obama but they are taking a terrible economic toll right now. Freedom is more profitable than economic slavery in the end. Hopefully they can wake up and see that polices that keep them chained to the state are bad for everyone. I don't know about Hispanics. I have always been told they come here to work very very hard, and succeed. Those who do that grow weary of the govt taking a nice chunk out.

I am not yet ready to say woe is me I am undone. Prepare of course, but I still have hope.

[chasfm11]

I will be interested to see what happens once Obama is not on the ballot anymore. Don't forget y'all that he has a personality cult following. So when the progressives dont have their golden boy on stage can they still pull it off. I dunno. People love Obama but hate things he has done. So when the dems have to run on their record and people are no longer fainting in the isle. How will the dems do?

Just as well. Here's why.

1. Hillary has a cult following. Granted, it is not as large and not as impassioned as the one for BO but it exists and it is formidable.
2. The Dems are winning the battle through social media. I assume that the same social media strategy that was used by Obama would be available to Hillary.
3. Many of the Democratic votes are actually votes against any Republican. These are generally come from "one issue" voters. An example is a Jewish couple that we know who dislike what Obama has done on Israel but voted for him because they are strong pro-choice. They would never ever vote for someone who even whispered at being pro-life. The Dems have done an outstanding job of demonizing the GOP on single issues in their various constituencies
4. Demographics are working against white voters. CA will have more Hispanics than any other group and it will take an unusual GOP candidate to attract them. Black voters have also been turned off to the GOP for a long time. This is pure politics and divisive tactics but it is working.

But they have done terribly crappy in the 2009 governors races, the 2010 mid terms. I think Hillary is out. She is sick. You can see it in her face. She has had to get a note what is it three times now to not appear before congress. Bill said she is doing great, as he is incapable of telling the truth I would bet she is not doing well at all.

Just cause the dems have done well on social media does not mean that the other side cannot learn.

One the one issue democrat voters...can't help stupid...perhaps if the bad policies of Obama punch them in the nose they will pay attention.

You say that about demographics, but black Americans are aborting themselves out of existence. Seriously, when 50% of black pregnancies end in abortion that is a really bad thing. They have been loyal to Obama but they are taking a terrible economic toll right now. Freedom is more profitable than economic slavery in the end. Hopefully they can wake up and see that polices that keep them chained to the state are bad for everyone. I don't know about Hispanics. I have always been told they come here to work very very hard, and succeed. Those who do that grow weary of the govt taking a nice chunk out.

I am not yet ready to say woe is me I am undone. Prepare of course, but I still have hope.

You mentioned Obama and I assumed that you were talking about National politics and particularly the Presidency. We'll see on Hillary - don't count her out too quickly.

On the Governors and many of the Congressmen, the GOP may be able to hold on. I don't see them regaining the Senate soon unless the gun issue helps them. The problem is the message and they have been doing a lousy job on that. Too critical? Perhaps. May I ask some questions?

1. Where/Who is the GOP voice on the gun control issue? Curiously lacking, isn't it?

2. Where is the preparation for the debit ceiling and sequestration? Again...crickets...

So what they are doing is allowing the Dems to frame the discussion and we know from history that doesn't work. The Dems are saying that the GOP is just against everything that Obama wants to do and, with their current silence, they are pretty much proving that point. I've seen Cruz on the TV a lot more than any other Republican and he just took his seat in January.

I really want to be optimistic. Kasich looks like he will retain the Ohio governor's post and I wouldn't have given him a snowballs chance. Walker seems to have ended up winning the battle in WI and I wouldn't have expected that either, not when the National level union muscle was thrown at him. But overall, the GOP is not on message and doesn't appear to have a strategy. I'm not sure how you win elections that way.

[TexasGal]

Sigh...Until the Republican party can unite and inspire more independent voters, we are all in deep trouble. I am so pro-life. I do not believe even that rape justifies abortion. BUT as long as a Republican running for President does so on a promise to do all that is possible to strike down Roe v Wade, he or she will alienate a lot of voters that must be won over to secure a win. As much as I hate to say it, I think it is time to cool the abortion issue in the Republican platform. It is also time to concede the gay right to equal insurance and marriage. I am not for those things, either, but I also think that they are inevitable and we are sacrificing the Republican party's power fighting about it. I know none of this will work out because there are so very many Republican voters who will stay home and not vote at all if either of these issues are backed off of. I fear we will lose so much power that we will lose our nation to the financial idiocy of the democrats and lose our gun rights and freedoms to the nanny state they also desire. No matter what we do Roe V Wade is here to stay and so is the increasing viewpoint that gay rights are the next great emancipation everyone must pursue. I hate to feel we must throw in any portion of the towel, but if we don't, I fear we will have it jerked from our fingers permanently by the tidal wave of youth coming up that do not share our values at all.

[anygunanywhere]

Sigh...Until the Republican party can unite and inspire more independent voters, we are all in deep trouble. I am so pro-life. I do not believe even that rape justifies abortion. BUT as long as a Republican running for President does so on a promise to do all that is possible to strike down Roe v Wade, he or she will alienate a lot of voters that must be won over to secure a win. As much as I hate to say it, I think it is time to cool the abortion issue in the Republican platform. It is also time to concede the gay right to equal insurance and marriage. I am not for those things, either, but I also think that they are inevitable and we are sacrificing the Republican party's power fighting about it. I know none of this will work out because there are so very many Republican voters who will stay home and not vote at all if either of these issues are backed off of. I fear we will lose so much power that we will lose our nation to the financial idiocy of the democrats and lose our gun rights and freedoms to the nanny state they also desire. No matter what we do Roe V Wade is here to stay and so is the increasing viewpoint that gay rights are the next great emancipation everyone must pursue. I hate to feel we must throw in any portion of the towel, but if we don't, I fear we will have it jerked from our fingers permanently by the tidal wave of youth coming up that do not share our values at all.

God bless you TexasGal.

Kind of tough to give up on the abortion issue when the pro abortion crowd always makes it their champion cause and litmus test.

Anygunanywhere

[Pete92FS]

"I am so disgusted..."

Sacrilege and idolatry...

[ Image ]

Just sick - if I was a subsciber to Newsweek (which I'm not) - they would get my instant cancellation notice.

[sjfcontrol]

You say that about demographics, but black Americans are aborting themselves out of existence. Seriously, when 50% of black pregnancies end in abortion that is a really bad thing. They have been loyal to Obama but they are taking a terrible economic toll right now. Freedom is more profitable than economic slavery in the end. Hopefully they can wake up and see that polices that keep them chained to the state are bad for everyone. I don't know about Hispanics. I have always been told they come here to work very very hard, and succeed. Those who do that grow weary of the govt taking a nice chunk out..

Is that true? Where does that stat come from?

[chasfm11]

Sigh...Until the Republican party can unite and inspire more independent voters, we are all in deep trouble. I am so pro-life. I do not believe even that rape justifies abortion. BUT as long as a Republican running for President does so on a promise to do all that is possible to strike down Roe v Wade, he or she will alienate a lot of voters that must be won over to secure a win. As much as I hate to say it, I think it is time to cool the abortion issue in the Republican platform. It is also time to concede the gay right to equal insurance and marriage. I am not for those things, either, but I also think that they are inevitable and we are sacrificing the Republican party's power fighting about it. I know none of this will work out because there are so very many Republican voters who will stay home and not vote at all if either of these issues are backed off of. I fear we will lose so much power that we will lose our nation to the financial idiocy of the democrats and lose our gun rights and freedoms to the nanny state they also desire. No matter what we do Roe V Wade is here to stay and so is the increasing viewpoint that gay rights are the next great emancipation everyone must pursue. I hate to feel we must throw in any portion of the towel, but if we don't, I fear we will have it jerked from our fingers permanently by the tidal wave of youth coming up that do not share our values at all.

I think you are right in all that you've said.

I've never been one to compromise on values but the Conservative viewpoint is just not popular enough to win National elections by itself. The last election proved that many Conservatives are just not energized enough to vote against the tyrannical nanny state which just about blows my mind.

The trap is set with every election contest. The Conservatives come out with fiscal themes and the media hounds them until they put their foot into one of the social quagmires. Our Jewish friends hated Paul Ryan because of his major pro-life speech. President Obama, on the other hand, never aired his true direction on gun grabbing. That's why he won.

[RPB]

Yeah, what a tool. Standing there with his hand on a bible, swearing to uphold and protect the constitution, then going back inside to find a way to tear it up.

What bothers me the most is that he does not think (feel) what he is doing is wrong.

Yesterday I was tweeting about MLK and him fighting for rights while being denied the right to carry, the right to protect the Life God gave him by being denied a carry permit, part of the racial Jim Crowe Gun Control Selective Enforcement etc and the Irony of Obama using his Bible while promoting that same sort of gun control to deny the right of self protection ... and
Here's an Interesting article by a Twitter follower who followed me yesterday
You might recognize the name
http://www.newsmax.com/US/alveda-king-b ... /id/472237" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Dr. Alveda King: ‘Mixed Emotions’ About Obama Using Uncle’s Bible
Sunday, 20 Jan 2013

“I have been having mixed emotions about President Obama using the Lincoln Bible and the Martin Luther King, Jr. Bible at his inauguration,” King said in an exclusive interview this week. “I think by the time I’m actually sitting there observing this – I’ll be watching it on television – I think the mixed emotions will be gone and I’ll just be sad.”

her twitter handle and page
@alvedaking
https://twitter.com/alvedaking" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveda_King" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

She is a former member of the Georgia House of Representatives and the founder of King for America.

I'm honored that she followed me, even if it might be temporary and she unfollows me some day, she doesn't follow everyone back

[mamabearCali]

The abortion issue did not lose us the senate and the presidency. According to Gallup 59% of Americans either think abortion should be illegal in all cases or legal only in extreme circumstances. That is the position the GOP holds. That abortion should only be legal in the most extreme of circumstances. So if we give in now we lose much more than we gain.

What lost us the presidency is running a humble honest man against an egomaniac with a personality cult following. The GOP let their candidates debate in hostile forums with moderators that pinch hit for Obama and threw dirt in Romneys face. In the senate at least here in VA we had a terrible candidate (had lost the seat once already) running against a democrat that ran on republican issues (of course Kaine will vote with the dems, no matter what he said on campaign.).

The GOP needs to get with the new paradigm. Clean politics will not work anymore. Their opponents will play dirty and the people are so lulled by the opiates of the masses that little information gets through, so they will have to play dirty too. Sorry that is how the game is played today.


The number from abortion is the CDC. The number is 47%, I was three off.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/ ... php?id=343" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[sjfcontrol]

The number from abortion is the CDC. The number is 47%, I was three off.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/ ... php?id=343" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I wasn't challenging you. I'm shocked it's anywhere near that high.
However, reading the first batch of comments at the link, there does seem to be a problem with the calculation.

According to the most recent CDC abortion data reported in 2008 from 28 areas in different states in the country, 47 percent of pregnancies by African-American women are terminated — 472 abortions per 1,000 live births.

472 abortions + 1000 live births = 1472 pregnancies.
472 abortions / 1472 pregnancies = 32% of pregnancies result in abortions.

(Note that 472 abortions / 1000 live births = 47.2% of live births result in abortions -- an impossibility, since a successful abortion cannot result in a live birth.)

I'll also point out the data is quite old -- 2008 -- and then they equivocate it anyway since ...

That data also may be skewed because there is no federal mandate requiring health-care agencies to submit abortion data to the government, and almost half of all agencies that did submit data to the CDC did not include information about race or ethnicity.

So it would seem that the numbers that are available point to a very high ratio, but also may be quite inaccurate.

A shocking statistic nonetheless.

[RPB]

I know as a rule we don't discuss religion/abortion as they are inflammatory ... but when discussing MLK, they are related topics to the Bible Obama used
It's simple-If one believes 1) God gives life 2) We should defend it 3) we have God-given right to defend it 4) MLK was denied the right to defend his in denying a carry permit which infringed on his God given right ... the Constitution does not give rights, it enumerates what rights are already possessed.

If the 2nd Amendment is DELETED, I STILL have the right, it's just that the government decided to breach the contract recognizing it.

related:

It's for the Children
we petition the Obama administration to:
Support and fully endorse the National Rifle Association's "National School Shield" Program.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... m/zDkJjQ12" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's for the Children

Obama’s Dream and Martin Luther King’s are World’s Apart http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/25/obam ... lds-apart/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

At last week's signing of "executive actions" designed to combat gun violence in America, President Obama, flanked by schoolchildren, said, "...when it comes to protecting the most vulnerable among us, we must act now." http://townhall.com/columnists/calthoma ... 0-n1494137" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ok... I'm done, I need to go get more sakrete and finish a 6-foot C-band satellite dish install today while warm weather is visiting

[mamabearCali]

Abortion is a political issue though and this is the politics forum. We are not discussing it as a procedure, but as a political wedge being driven into the GOP. We could say the same thing about social programs though. The progressives are lying, making pie in the sky promises and the GOP feebly protests that they are not the big bad wolf.

Baloney.

The GOP needs to speak the truth. The progressive want to feed people as little as possible(just enough to keep them alive and not hungry but not enough to give them good health) and give them as little stuff as they can (Obama phones) while still retaining their vote. They milk them for their own power and intend to keep them poor and dissastified with life. The freedom lovers in America want people to be able to work hard, have great careers, and be able to really live. You want a boat...great! Go and work for it! You want a new I-pad, fabulous! Go and work for it. You want a beautiful house, wonderful! Go and work for it! We will cheer you on as you go.

The same stances should be made with all issues. The democrats are playing spitball, we will not win by playing with kid gloves.