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Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 3:18 pm
by jmra
RottenApple wrote:jmra wrote:I don't know about state law, but our handbook states that our vehicles are subject to search at any time. Refusal would result in termination. I leave the gun at home for the simple fact that I am on a HS campus and dogs are run thru the parking lot unannounced several times a year looking for contraband in student cars. My luck one would hit on my vehicle which of course would be followed by a search.
Unless you use a different vehicle to go to the range or have yours detailed after each range trip, would those dogs not trigger on residue? Of course, they'd probably have to search within a few days of your range trip, else whatever residue is there will have dissipated. Seems to me it's probably a needless worry.
Please don't get me wrong. You've had to make a judgement call regarding your safety verses your livelihood. I respect that and am very grateful I don't have to make that decision.
I've seen the dogs trigger on allergy medication. I've also seen them trigger and it appear to be nothing. Point is if they trigger on my vehicle and I have my firearm in the truck I no longer have a job.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:12 pm
by C-dub
RottenApple wrote: Of course, they'd probably have to search within a few days of your range trip, else whatever residue is there will have dissipated. Seems to me it's probably a needless worry.
Nope. I've run dogs on tracks that were weeks and months old that I didn't think they would be able to do, but

they still found the objects I had left behind thanks to good training and good genetics.
However, you're probably right on the needless worry, because as long as you don't actually have the firearm in the vehicle and it is just the residue they hit on, you can prove it if you want to that there aren't any firearms in the vehicle. And they would actually have to bring a dog trained for that scent instead of drugs or whatever else they might be looking for. Most dogs I've worked with aren't trained for explosives and drugs. It's usually either one or the other. A dog trained for either can be expensive and one dog trained for both that can remain proficient is even higher.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:09 pm
by bizarrenormality
If I worked for nutjobs like some of you guys apparently do, I think I'd have to salt the executive lot with powder.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:33 pm
by C-dub
bizarrenormality wrote:If I worked for nutjobs like some of you guys apparently do, I think I'd have to salt the executive lot with powder.
That would be funny.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:14 am
by Ericstac
On the parking lot issue.. If the gun is locked in a safe wouldn't they need to get a search warrant to open the safe?
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:22 am
by jmra
Ericstac wrote:On the parking lot issue.. If the gun is locked in a safe wouldn't they need to get a search warrant to open the safe?
Not if you want to keep your job.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 8:09 am
by Ericstac
jmra wrote:Ericstac wrote:On the parking lot issue.. If the gun is locked in a safe wouldn't they need to get a search warrant to open the safe?
Not if you want to keep your job.
It's pretty sad that there are way too many teachers that do a very poor job and cant be fired but you can have a teacher of the year caliber teacher with a gun in the car and be terminated on the spot.
Way too look out for the children America.

Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 4:10 pm
by snorri
Ericstac wrote:On the parking lot issue.. If the gun is locked in a safe wouldn't they need to get a search warrant to open the safe?
Only if they're law enforcement.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:24 pm
by E10
When I go to my kid's school, for whatever reason, I park on the street and secure my handgun in a lockbox under the front passenger's seat. Even if I have to walk a distance.
Re: Gun in Vehicles
Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:52 pm
by jmra
E10 wrote:When I go to my kid's school, for whatever reason, I park on the street and secure my handgun in a lockbox under the front passenger's seat. Even if I have to walk a distance.
Why? If you have a CHL and aren't an employee of the school no reason not to park in the school parking lot.