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This is so sad....I really don't know what to say.....well I can't say it here.

A long drop with a sudden stop in his home neighborhood (maybe even televised) should drive the message home.

As long as it is attached to his family jewels the first time. Brings a whole new level the game hangman.

Enjoy the joviality, but the death penalty or torture has never worked as a deterrent, doesn't work, and never will.

- Jim

seamusTX wrote:

A long drop with a sudden stop in his home neighborhood (maybe even televised) should drive the message home.

As long as it is attached to his family jewels the first time. Brings a whole new level the game hangman.

Enjoy the joviality, but the death penalty or torture has never worked as a deterrent, doesn't work, and never will.

- Jim

I wasn't looking for a deterrent. Just a way to make the individual suffer.

Two teens arrested! Ages 17 and 14. Sad on so many leves, words fail me.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/us/georgi ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Edit to correct ages.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/arti ... swick-baby" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Relatives say they were framed and at choir practice when the crime occurred (not really, but giving alibis).

Also there were multiple comments on one of these sites about the baby's mother being "phony" because she gave interviews. Unfortunately it's rather common now to have friends or relatives of the suspects post this kind of garbage on news sites. We've even had it in this forum.

- Jim

In this case I think he maximum allowable penalty should be imposed. No tears, no second chances. They killed an innocent in cold blood they deserve everything they get and more.

Ahh 17 tried as an adult. Well there is some hope.

seamusTX wrote:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/arti ... swick-baby

Relatives say they were framed and at choir practice when the crime occurred (not really, but giving alibis).

Also there were multiple comments on one of these sites about the baby's mother being "phony" because she gave interviews. Unfortunately it's rather common now to have friends or relatives of the suspects post this kind of garbage on news sites. We've even had it in this forum.

- Jim

The mom and dad, whose baby's life was taken by vicious and barbarous thugs, did indeed give interviews...but they look pretty distraught, as one would expect under such heinous circumstances. "These are the times that try men's souls".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ead_module

philip964 wrote:Ahh 17 tried as an adult. Well there is some hope.

In Texas at 17 you are criminally an adult.

Made national news on TV this morning along with a sign that fell on a family and killed a 10 year old at the Birmingham Airport.

I did find out how they found the two BG's so quickly. Town has 15,000 people apparently very low crime place. Found out all the kids that were not in school that day, took the woman's description and bingo, they had the shooters. Smart police.

suthdj wrote:

philip964 wrote:Ahh 17 tried as an adult. Well there is some hope.

In Texas at 17 you are criminally an adult.

I think they should change the juvenile system so crimes against a person are tried as adult by default. Make a new process to allow a petition to move prosecution to the juvenile system, if the actor is under 17 and there are extenuating circumstances that justify it.

http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 382123.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lawyer says his client is 1000 percent not guilty.

I suspect the 15 year old will finger the 17 year old. Then its all over. They won't get to blame each other because I assume the mom will also be able to identify the shooter. In fact she picked this man out of a 24 picture line up. Oh yeah, he dropped out of alternative school in 2011.

philip964 wrote:Lawyer says his client is 1000 percent not guilty.

That is their job. If you ever need a lawyer, you don't want one that says, "Nyeh, my client is schlump."

That said, the mug shot makes me glad this creep is 1,000 miles away, whether in jail or out.

- Jim

Words cannot describe the horror of this story. But as bad as the (alleged) criminals are, their families are a thousand times worse. How could anybody with even a shred of morality attempt to shield or excuse such an atrocity???

On a related note, my wife needs to get off her duff and get her CHL....

suthdj wrote:

seamusTX wrote:

A long drop with a sudden stop in his home neighborhood (maybe even televised) should drive the message home.

As long as it is attached to his family jewels the first time. Brings a whole new level the game hangman.

Enjoy the joviality, but the death penalty or torture has never worked as a deterrent, doesn't work, and never will.

- Jim

I wasn't looking for a deterrent. Just a way to make the individual suffer.