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RKirby wrote:Check out this web site....pay particular attention to the shotgun section:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/index.htm

Lot's of interesting real world information to be found here as opposed to the sometimes biased opinions you read in the gun rags.

My question is, for home defense what type of shotgun rounds are ideal? Bird shot? Buck shot? What's the difference between the two? Right now all I have are "dove load" shells and some spare slugs.

Depends if the turkeys are wearing body armor or not.

BTW, try a few slugs or buckshot loads out and let us know how that AR stock works out. My son has been trying to get me to buy one for my HD gun. Personally, I think I'd rather have a real recoil pad.

Will do.

Thanks for all the help on the topic.

David

RKirby wrote:BTW, try a few slugs or buckshot loads out and let us know how that AR stock works out. My son has been trying to get me to buy one for my HD gun. Personally, I think I'd rather have a real recoil pad.

http://www.knoxx.com/NewStyleKnoxx/Prod ... Stock.html



This works really well on my 870.

I have a mossberg 500 cruiser that I keep for close quarters and home defense. I keep it loaded with a dove shot in the chamber and 3 00 buck then 2 slugs in the mag incase the dove and buck doesnt get the job done. I practice with it loaded this way at the range and I think it would definitely do the trick.

My Mossberg 500 all done with 00 buck
at 3 and 7 yards.


15 yards


25 yards, all pellets on the body.


Note that in most residential settings, 15 yards (45 feet) would be a stretch.

Edit, here she is;

txinvestigator wrote:My Mossberg 500 all done with 00 buck
at 3 and 7 yards.


Edit, here she is;

Sweet!!

texas297 wrote:

txinvestigator wrote:My Mossberg 500 all done with 00 buck
at 3 and 7 yards.


Edit, here she is;

Sweet!!

One other thing, what kind of light and mount is on there?

It is a standard Surefire Shotgun Forend.

http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_ ... /sesent/00

RKirby wrote:Check out this web site....pay particular attention to the shotgun section:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/index.htm

Lot's of interesting real world information to be found here as opposed to the sometimes biased opinions you read in the gun rags.

My question is, for home defense what type of shotgun rounds are ideal? Bird shot? Buck shot? What's the difference between the two? Right now all I have are "dove load" shells and some spare slugs.

Depends if the turkeys are wearing body armor or not.

BTW, try a few slugs or buckshot loads out and let us know how that AR stock works out. My son has been trying to get me to buy one for my HD gun. Personally, I think I'd rather have a real recoil pad.

Thats the website!

Good stuff in there...

I'd use 00 or 000 buckshot for defense use in a shotgun. Birdshot at off-the muzzle range is certainly nothing to dismiss lightly, but if ranges open up just a bit, I'm not convinced that it will penetrate sufficiently, especially if the BG is wearing something like a leather biker jacket.

FWIW, the African guides I've spoken to who use shotguns for following up dangerous wounded game use nothing smaller than 00 for leopard. Leopards are fast, nasty, and strong, but will average around 160 or so pounds, only rarely topping 200 . . . if men with experience won't trust shot smaller than 00 to stop an oversized kitty cat, I won't trust it to stop a leather clad, 250 lb. biker high on meth or with a handful of PCP up his nose.

I have seen birdshot that did not even pass all the way through a bird. Something like that might just have a tendency to make someone mad if you shot them with it.

I load my house shotgun with 4 rounds of 00 buckshot followed by 4 slugs. I figure if the buckshot doesn't get it done, I might as well go to slugs.

jimlongley wrote:I have seen birdshot that did not even pass all the way through a bird. Something like that might just have a tendency to make someone mad if you shot them with it.

I load my house shotgun with 4 rounds of 00 buckshot followed by 4 slugs. I figure if the buckshot doesn't get it done, I might as well go to slugs.

At the very least they'll be moving a little slower and make an easier target.

texas297 wrote:

jimlongley wrote:I have seen birdshot that did not even pass all the way through a bird. Something like that might just have a tendency to make someone mad if you shot them with it.

I load my house shotgun with 4 rounds of 00 buckshot followed by 4 slugs. I figure if the buckshot doesn't get it done, I might as well go to slugs.

At the very least they'll be moving a little slower and make an easier target.

Which statement are you referring to?

NcongruNt wrote:

texas297 wrote:

jimlongley wrote:I have seen birdshot that did not even pass all the way through a bird. Something like that might just have a tendency to make someone mad if you shot them with it.

I load my house shotgun with 4 rounds of 00 buckshot followed by 4 slugs. I figure if the buckshot doesn't get it done, I might as well go to slugs.

At the very least they'll be moving a little slower and make an easier target.

Which statement are you referring to?

I'm sorry, the second.

I meant that the bird shot would slow the bad guy enough so that hitting him with a slug would be easier.

Guys think about this realistically. What range do you think you will have a confrontation in your home. 10 yards would be a stretch in my house. But then again maybe I don't live in the mansions that some of you must live in. A shotgun with a fairly tight choke will hit like a sledge hammer and blow a big, nasty hole in whatever you shot with it.

Next time you go to the range, try shooting a few rounds of #6 or #4 and I think you'll be surprised. If you don't feel that lead will cut the mustard, then try something like the Hevi-Shot loads. My Benelli 20 gauge will pull over 100 pellets on target at 40+ yards with Hevi Shot and A Swarm choke tube, so you can imagine what it would be like at real world combat ranges.