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Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:51 pm
by The Annoyed Man
bdickens wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
baldeagle wrote:Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common... and it's not guns

What is it? Psychotropic drugs. Prozac. Zoloft. Ritalin. etc., etc., etc.
No, the thing they all have in common is liberals trying to make political hay out of tragedy.
You, sir, are a genius.
Thank you. Would you please tell my wife? :lol:

Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:22 pm
by rotor
Redneck_Buddha wrote:It's really as simple as reading the possible side effects on the inserts to these drugs:

From the Harvard Medical School Journal:

*Suicide. The risk that antidepressants will incite violent or self-destructive actions has become the subject of renewed controversy. One reason for concern is the increasing number of children and adolescents receiving prescriptions for antidepressants. When compared with a placebo, all antidepressants, including SSRIs, seem to double the risk of suicidal thinking, from 1%–2% to 2%–4%, in both children and adults.

Full entry is here:

http://www.health.harvard.edu/press_rel ... de_effects" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Black box suicide warning on SSRI medication is applicable to patients 24 and under. Lanza was 20, Holmes, 25.
Again, you are using the legal garbage that is packed with every prescription listing every possible side effect. Remember this though next time you use a screwdriver because we all know they cause blindness- if you don't wear safety glasses.

Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:49 pm
by bdickens
Redneck_Buddha wrote:It's really as simple as reading the possible side effects on the inserts to these drugs:

Google up the possible side effects of asprin.

Better yet, google post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:36 pm
by Jumping Frog
If one is looking for correlation, I would be willing to suspect that these shooters were loony tunes and thus put on medication, instead of put on medication and became loony tunes.

Medication or not, they were still loony tunes.

Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:08 pm
by K.Mooneyham
While I fully understand that correlation does not equal causality, these are very powerful meds we are talking about here. And like I said previously, though they have undoubtedly helped SOME people, perhaps quite a few people, does not mean they help ALL people...these dudes doing the shootings might be in that last group...human brain chemistry is still not a fully understood realm of science. That is all I am trying to get at here. Besides which it seems they are oh-so-willing to throw meds at any and every little problem these days. Too many kids on a bunch of pills. And please don't try to tell me that they really all should be on those meds, there ain't something wrong with all those kids, there is something wrong with society.

Re: Every mass shooting in last 20 years has one commonality

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:03 pm
by Redneck_Buddha
K.Mooneyham wrote:While I fully understand that correlation does not equal causality, these are very powerful meds we are talking about here. And like I said previously, though they have undoubtedly helped SOME people, perhaps quite a few people, does not mean they help ALL people...these dudes doing the shootings might be in that last group...human brain chemistry is still not a fully understood realm of science. That is all I am trying to get at here. Besides which it seems they are oh-so-willing to throw meds at any and every little problem these days. Too many kids on a bunch of pills. And please don't try to tell me that they really all should be on those meds, there ain't something wrong with all those kids, there is something wrong with society.
My thoughts exactly. Instead of talk therapy psychiatrists (many of whom are of dubious mental stability) have punted to these powerful SSRIs. Whether because of laziness, lack of competence, or insurance restrictions, I believe they put some people on these medications that have no business taking them and should possibly be taking an anti-psychotic or anti-schizophrenic instead.

And no, I have not read an aspirin insert. Does it warn of increased aggression, elevated suicide risk, and worsening depression?