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While a lot of police departments (city/county/state) may look like military tactical assets they are under a different chain of command and control.

I think this author need to have a better understanding of the Posse Comitatus Act, the Stafford Act and DoD Instruction 3025.21 Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies.

And let’s be honest…if there ever was a Chem/Bio/Radiological hazard in a major metropolitan area, who would have the resources, training and assets to quickly come in and provide assistance.

I'm not worried about the Army coming after me! Now if we are talking about DHS on the other hand????

SF18C wrote:While a lot of police departments (city/county/state) may look like military tactical assets they are under a different chain of command and control.

I think this author need to have a better understanding of the Posse Comitatus Act, the Stafford Act and DoD Instruction 3025.21 Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies.

And let’s be honest…if there ever was a Chem/Bio/Radiological hazard in a major metropolitan area, who would have the resources, training and assets to quickly come in and provide assistance.

I'm not worried about the Army coming after me! Now if we are talking about DHS on the other hand????

This ^ .....and I'd add the following:

Here is a quote from the article:

The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries.

The most objectionable aspect of the regulatory change is the inclusion of vague language that permits military intervention in the event of “civil disturbances.” According to the rule:

Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances.

Since when does "the military" have the constitutional authority to rewrite the U.S. Code? Plainly put, it does not. If this language was changed, it was changed by civilian authorities..........perhaps not constitutionally, but civilian none the less. The military does not write, maintain, guard, or contribute to the U.S. Code; Congress does; so the military cannot "grant itself" new authority by modifications thereof. Heck, it can't even get rid of its responsibilities under the U.S. Code, let alone add to them.

Like SF18C said, I am a LOT less worried about the military than I am about its civilian overlords.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

SF18C wrote:While a lot of police departments (city/county/state) may look like military tactical assets they are under a different chain of command and control.

I think this author need to have a better understanding of the Posse Comitatus Act, the Stafford Act and DoD Instruction 3025.21 Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies.

And let’s be honest…if there ever was a Chem/Bio/Radiological hazard in a major metropolitan area, who would have the resources, training and assets to quickly come in and provide assistance.

I'm not worried about the Army coming after me! Now if we are talking about DHS on the other hand????

This ^ .....and I'd add the following:

Here is a quote from the article:

The lines blurred even further Monday as a new dynamic was introduced to the militarization of domestic law enforcement. By making a few subtle changes to a regulation in the U.S. Code titled “Defense Support of Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies” the military has quietly granted itself the ability to police the streets without obtaining prior local or state consent, upending a precedent that has been in place for more than two centuries.

The most objectionable aspect of the regulatory change is the inclusion of vague language that permits military intervention in the event of “civil disturbances.” According to the rule:

Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances.

Since when does "the military" have the constitutional authority to rewrite the U.S. Code? Plainly put, it does not. If this language was changed, it was changed by civilian authorities..........perhaps not constitutionally, but civilian none the less. The military does not write, maintain, guard, or contribute to the U.S. Code; Congress does; so the military cannot "grant itself" new authority by modifications thereof. Heck, it can't even get rid of its responsibilities under the U.S. Code, let alone add to them.

Like SF18C said, I am a LOT less worried about the military than I am about its civilian overlords.

We're under the rule of the "know nothing" administration. The only things Obama, Holder, et al, know about what is going on in their government is what they see in the media or hear about from questioning in Congress. Well, to be fair, they may have known of a couple things, but they've "forgotten" them since they happened way back in 2012. My operative assumption is that to the extent the article reflects reality, any change is entirely the product of Obama and his goons, with the military getting the blame. What we have in power now is nothing more than a gang of criminal thugs who will do and say anything to get their way, and with less honor and integrity than the typical tinpot dictator of a banana republic.

VMI77 wrote:We're under the rule of the "know nothing" administration. The only things Obama, Holder, et al, know about what is going on in their government is what they see in the media or hear about from questioning in Congress. Well, to be fair, they may have known of a couple things, but they've "forgotten" them since they happened way back in 2012. My operative assumption is that to the extent the article reflects reality, any change is entirely the product of Obama and his goons, with the military getting the blame. What we have in power now is nothing more than a gang of criminal thugs who will do and say anything to get their way, and with less honor and integrity than the typical tinpot dictator of a banana republic.

You're absolutely right, but I actually trust the military to help restore the constitutional republic if it comes to that. The fact is that, at least at its general officer levels and often among officers below that grade, the military is made up mostly of scholar/warriors with a keen sense of history, a sense of the proper relationship between America's civilian government of The People and the military, and a keen appreciation for the Constitution which they swear to defend.

Obamany Hall cares not for any of that. They only care about power.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

VMI77 wrote:We're under the rule of the "know nothing" administration. The only things Obama, Holder, et al, know about what is going on in their government is what they see in the media or hear about from questioning in Congress. Well, to be fair, they may have known of a couple things, but they've "forgotten" them since they happened way back in 2012. My operative assumption is that to the extent the article reflects reality, any change is entirely the product of Obama and his goons, with the military getting the blame. What we have in power now is nothing more than a gang of criminal thugs who will do and say anything to get their way, and with less honor and integrity than the typical tinpot dictator of a banana republic.

You're absolutely right, but I actually trust the military to help restore the constitutional republic if it comes to that. The fact is that, at least at its general officer levels and often among officers below that grade, the military is made up mostly of scholar/warriors with a keen sense of history, a sense of the proper relationship between America's civilian government of The People and the military, and a keen appreciation for the Constitution which they swear to defend.

Obamany Hall cares not for any of that. They only care about power.

I agree, but have more faith in certain parts of the military than others. I have the most faith in Special Forces with each branch probably being more or less equal in that regard, and in the more general sense, in the Marines, but a true warrior is a true warrior no matter what uniform he's wearing. I guess I can rephrase to say that I tend to think in whatever branch, those who possess or are closest to the warrior spirit, are the most likely to participate in a restoration.

I am currently in the military reserves. On our weekend warrior missions, we've had time to talk about this alot in the field. Alot of police there in their civilian life.

They are the honest, hardworking man that I believe constitutes most in the military. Whether ordered via military or LEO, they all stated they would not go against the americans citizens. Their first reason why? Suicide mission. They feel that there would be great resistance and its hard to fight that resistance when you agree with it 100%

Let's not even get into the oath we all took. I remember mine. Obviously many in washington dont

VMI77 wrote:I guess I can rephrase to say that I tend to think in whatever branch, those who possess or are closest to the warrior spirit, are the most likely to participate in a restoration.

That's because they understand themselves to be sheepdogs, not wolves. The wolves are all in the administration.