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While conviction rates are extraordinarily low for CHL holder's I hope lowering the standards doesn't reverse the trend...

The closer we get to the Constitution "shall not be infringed" is raising the standards.

What folks fail to remember is "Accountability" Folks have got to stand on the Constitution & make sure they educate themselves & "TRAIN" to proficency level they are physically able to accomplish.

I confess there will be those that will come one time & then never "practice" let alone "train" any more.
Just because we as Instructors see that now does not justify the infringement on the inalignable rights of the rest of us.

TexasCajun wrote:

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"

Not having to take a renewal class & requalify is a great win for us. The simplified process should help the DPS backlog once this has been in place for a while. With no class to take, there shouldn't be any need to carry on an expired license.

In theory I agree. However........

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"

What wording allowed carrying on an expired license?

sjfcontrol wrote:
What wording allowed carrying on an expired license?

Go to page 1 of this thread and see my post.

sjfcontrol wrote:

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"

What wording allowed carrying on an expired license?

The link below was the original text. Go to section G

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It will be interesting to see how the nuts and bolts of this work out. Photos - tests - online, mail, email, fax...

Guess I will just wait and see what going to shake out.

While I do like this, as it saves both time and money, how is this going to effect reciprocity with other states? I guess time will tell. I imagine CHL instructors do not like this as they are now going to loose money.

longtooth wrote:The closer we get to the Constitution "shall not be infringed" is raising the standards.

What folks fail to remember is "Accountability" Folks have got to stand on the Constitution & make sure they educate themselves & "TRAIN" to proficency level they are physically able to accomplish.

I confess there will be those that will come one time & then never "practice" let alone "train" any more.
Just because we as Instructors see that now does not justify the infringement on the inalignable rights of the rest of us.

Well said, sir

RPBrown wrote:

sjfcontrol wrote:

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"

What wording allowed carrying on an expired license?

The link below was the original text. Go to section G

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/ ... navpanes=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

OH -- now I see. I thought he was saying they took that part out of the CURRENT code. They took it out of the bill.

RPBrown wrote:This is great.

However, I see they took out the part about carrying on an expired license.

This does trouble me a little with the extended times it is taking DPS to do what they do to issue the license.

I guess this was another "compromise"

That provision would have cost us our NICS exemption. There's a way to achieve the same goal without extending the effective date of a CHL beyond it's expiration date. I'll draft a bill to accomplish this for the 2015 session.

Chas.

Leave it out then. Sometimes on this sode of the bill we dont see it all.
I sure dont want to loose that.

texanjoker wrote:While I do like this, as it saves both time and money, how is this going to effect reciprocity with other states?

That's the big question mark.

Chas.

longtooth wrote:Leave it out then. Sometimes on this sode of the bill we dont see it all.
I sure dont want to loose that.

I agree.