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Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:43 am
by XGC Radioactive
fickman wrote:If you end up in the hot seat with a DA coming for you, ala Mr. Zimmerman, of course they'll make it a big deal. It'll be the responsibility of your defense team to ask every officer who testifies what caliber they carry and what calibers they own at home as a reference point for the jury.

They'll use anything and everything they can to make you look like a monster, cowboy, or some sort of cowboy monster.

They can't do any of the above if you don't survive the attack.
better to be in the hot seat than the cold ground....

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:49 pm
by mrvmax
The Annoyed Man wrote:
mrvmax wrote:If I am at home and the closest firearm is my S&W 500 then that is what I will use. Believe it or not, but I could conceal carry it if I wanted. I have too many other options so I would never carry it but overpenetration would be my biggest concern with it.
Don't carry it into Oklahoma. :cool:
Yep, I noticed they have a caliber "limit" when I was looking over their laws when I drove through there.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:15 pm
by XGC Radioactive
mrvmax wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
mrvmax wrote:If I am at home and the closest firearm is my S&W 500 then that is what I will use. Believe it or not, but I could conceal carry it if I wanted. I have too many other options so I would never carry it but overpenetration would be my biggest concern with it.
Don't carry it into Oklahoma. :cool:
Yep, I noticed they have a caliber "limit" when I was looking over their laws when I drove through there.
Oklahoma, cus Mediocrehoma doesn't sound that great. :p

I find that's kinda ironic. "Yes you can open carry, but nothing larger than a .45. We don't want you to overkill the guy that's trying to kill you. What would people think?"

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:41 pm
by Jason K
So....would carrying a .460S&W concealed be OK?....

:mrgreen:

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:17 pm
by Keith B
Jason K wrote:So....would carrying a .460S&W concealed be OK?....

:mrgreen:
Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:14 pm
by ajwakeboarder
Keith B wrote: Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.
What about a .454 Casull? It's almost as powerfull as a S&W .500

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:36 pm
by The Annoyed Man
ajwakeboarder wrote:
Keith B wrote: Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.
What about a .454 Casull? It's almost as powerfull as a S&W .500
You know, I don't know. I thought about that when I listed the other > .45 calibers. I own a .44 magnum, and it is fun to shoot, but I would not want to shoot in self defense with it. Double taps would set your hair on fire.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:00 pm
by ajwakeboarder
The Annoyed Man wrote:
ajwakeboarder wrote:
Keith B wrote: Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.
What about a .454 Casull? It's almost as powerfull as a S&W .500
You know, I don't know. I thought about that when I listed the other > .45 calibers. I own a .44 magnum, and it is fun to shoot, but I would not want to shoot in self defense with it. Double taps would set your hair on fire.
I haven't gotten a chance to shoot either yet. I don't ever see a reason i would carry anything that big for normal self defense. I still carry a 9mm for now, but i'm thinking of upgrading to a .45ACP. However, a group of friends and i have been wanting to go on a hiking/camping trip in the Colorado mountains sometime. We've discussed bear defense and both the .44 mag and the .454 Casull have come up in discussion.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:06 pm
by mrvmax
ajwakeboarder wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
ajwakeboarder wrote:
Keith B wrote: Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.
What about a .454 Casull? It's almost as powerfull as a S&W .500
You know, I don't know. I thought about that when I listed the other > .45 calibers. I own a .44 magnum, and it is fun to shoot, but I would not want to shoot in self defense with it. Double taps would set your hair on fire.
I haven't gotten a chance to shoot either yet. I don't ever see a reason i would carry anything that big for normal self defense. I still carry a 9mm for now, but i'm thinking of upgrading to a .45ACP. However, a group of friends and i have been wanting to go on a hiking/camping trip in the Colorado mountains sometime. We've discussed bear defense and both the .44 mag and the .454 Casull have come up in discussion.
If you live in Alaska or bear country there is a good reason to carry something that big.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:51 pm
by XGC Radioactive
mrvmax wrote:
ajwakeboarder wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
ajwakeboarder wrote:
Keith B wrote: Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.
What about a .454 Casull? It's almost as powerfull as a S&W .500
You know, I don't know. I thought about that when I listed the other > .45 calibers. I own a .44 magnum, and it is fun to shoot, but I would not want to shoot in self defense with it. Double taps would set your hair on fire.
I haven't gotten a chance to shoot either yet. I don't ever see a reason i would carry anything that big for normal self defense. I still carry a 9mm for now, but i'm thinking of upgrading to a .45ACP. However, a group of friends and i have been wanting to go on a hiking/camping trip in the Colorado mountains sometime. We've discussed bear defense and both the .44 mag and the .454 Casull have come up in discussion.
If you live in Alaska or bear country there is a good reason to carry something that big.
I know someone who carried a 500S&W in a national park for bears. talk about weighing down your waist.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:38 am
by Jason K
A .460S&W uses a .45 caliber bullet....they just call it a .460 in the same way that they call a .429 bullet a .44 Magnum....


Keith B wrote:
Jason K wrote:So....would carrying a .460S&W concealed be OK?....

:mrgreen:
Not OK in OK. Nothing larger than a .45 caliber. A .44 Mag is OK though.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:46 am
by Keith B
Jason K wrote:A .460S&W uses a .45 caliber bullet....they just call it a .460 in the same way that they call a .429 bullet a .44 Magnum....
True, but if you get someone who doesn't really understand that it is the same diameter as a .45 ACP, then you may have an argument on your hands to get out of charges.

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:46 am
by XGC Radioactive
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Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:32 am
by MoJo
I met a guy who obviously had doubts about his masculinity, His CCW was a S&W 500! He wore the gun in a OWB with THREE speedloaders. :anamatedbanana

Re: Larger claiber deeming "too aggressive"?

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:40 am
by XGC Radioactive
MoJo wrote:I met a guy who obviously had doubts about his masculinity, His CCW was a S&W 500! He wore the gun in a OWB with THREE speedloaders. :anamatedbanana
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