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Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:56 pm
by JALLEN
AndyC wrote:PawPaw patterned his Federal FliteControl buckshot today:

5 yards:
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15 yards:
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That's some amazing wad.
That is completely consistent with my results with the Federal no. 1 buckshot. You do not want to be on the wrong end of that stuff!

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:52 pm
by CC Italian
That looks like the same results I got with the #1. The #4 20 gauge personal defense was similar but about double the size.Imagine what that does to the silver dollar size wound. 15 .30 caliber balls in such a small area. :shock:

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:24 pm
by Pawpaw
The pictures AndyC posted above were fired from my Mossberg 930 SPX seen in this thread.

That's a 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. The ammo was the Federal Personal Defense 00 buck with the FliteControl wad (PD132 00). That's 9 copper plated lead balls going through each of those little holes. I find it very interesting that you can even see stippling from the shot buffer on the 15 yard shot.

I have a limited amount of that loading, but have more of the Law Enforcement load (LE133 00), which only has 8 pellets. I wouldn't feel under-armed with that stuff, either. Either one is probably gonna put a half-dollar sized hole all the way through an intruder.

I actually would rather have the #1 buck (LE132 1B), but I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

If anyone is interested, I usually get the LE133 00 from GT Distributors in Dallas.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:31 am
by JALLEN
Pawpaw wrote:
I actually would rather have the #1 buck (LE132 1B), but I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

If anyone is interested, I usually get the LE133 00 from GT Distributors in Dallas.
I got mine (No. 1 Buck) from GT in Austin close to a year ago. When I called them in Nov-Dec or so to order more, I was told the back order was over 30,000 rounds of that item alone.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:41 am
by fickman
I have #4 in the tube and slugs in the saddle of my Mossberg 500 18.5". Thanks for posting - will have to bookmark this article and read it later this week.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:54 am
by texanjoker
I have low recoil 00 LE rounds in my gauge..

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:38 pm
by rentz
AndyC wrote:PawPaw patterned his Federal FliteControl buckshot today:

5 yards:
[ Image ]

15 yards:
[ Image ]
That's some amazing wad.
After seeing these holes I have GOT to get myself a 12ga for the house.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:15 pm
by Deltaboy
I go with 00 buck and slugs .

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:19 pm
by w squared
AndyC wrote:PawPaw patterned his Federal FliteControl buckshot today:

5 yards:
[ Image ]

15 yards:
[ Image ]
That's some amazing wad.
That is impressive. When I pick up a new 12 gauge to replace what I've sold (long story), I believe there will be some Federal #1 buck being purcahsed at the same time.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:40 pm
by The Annoyed Man
I'm finding the Federal Flight Control 00 Buck for sale online, but not the #1 reduced recoil load. :grumble

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:30 pm
by Pawpaw
The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm finding the Federal Flight Control 00 Buck for sale online, but not the #1 reduced recoil load. :grumble
Over in the other thread ( viewtopic.php?f=23&t=68165" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) JALLEN turned me on to this link: http://www.ammunitiondepot.com/Federal- ... 321b-a.htm (pay no attention to what the link says, They're the right ones, as you can see on that web page.)

They aren't cheap, but they are available.

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:02 pm
by Texheim
I took the plug out of my Winchester Ranger 120 and have 2 bird shot in it, followed by 3 - 00....

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:33 pm
by Pawpaw
Texheim wrote:I took the plug out of my Winchester Ranger 120 and have 2 bird shot in it, followed by 3 - 00....
So, you're going to give them 2 nasty rashes before you really get serious? :headscratch

Re: Home defense - birdshot, buckshot or slugs?

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:48 pm
by Texheim
Pawpaw wrote:
Texheim wrote:I took the plug out of my Winchester Ranger 120 and have 2 bird shot in it, followed by 3 - 00....
So, you're going to give them 2 nasty rashes before you really get serious? :headscratch
Got to see if they're dedicated. I've got one in the chamber ready to go so they won't get the warning of the action...