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Bang4Buck wrote:

Blindref757 wrote:This should help!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTJbbBTQv6g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hERsGIcxQMY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those videos confirm the shield is not a good option for me.

I have both the M&P 9c and the Shield. I like them equally. There are times that the Shield (IWB) is comfortable for me. When I carry my Shield I always carry an extra magazine. Most of the time I carry the 9c (as it is in the picture below). I prefer no safeties on my pistols.

I have upgraded my 9c just a tad.

Bang4Buck wrote:

Cjwglock19 wrote:I carry a 19 and wear lots of cargos and button ups in the summer. I use a Raven phantom owb

I'm usually in a t shirt. Here's the other thing: My car has an aftermarket race seat in it. Very tight fit. I don't think I could ever carry while driving. Would have to be in glovebox or front of cargo shorts in summer. I'd really prefer the M&P compact or G19, but that is part of what has me leaning G26

http://www.511tactical.com/All-Products ... Shirt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Problem solved. No charge for the advice..... this time

I’ve owned all three of those guns and the Glock 26 with pinky extension was my EDC for a long time. With the pinky extension on the 26 it wasn’t any more or less fun to shoot than the 19. Glock ergonomics have always been great for me but, having said that, I do prefer the ergonomics of the M&P. I have also owned the XD(M) Compact 3.8 that TAM mentioned and I did prefer it’s trigger over the Glock and the M&P, but the M&P still has the best ergonomics of the three IMO. Also, the Springfield does cost a little more. I’ll second what TAM said; there are no bad choices between these.

JIC you’re in the Houston area, I’m a home FFL located in League City and have both the M&P9c and the Glock 26 in stock. You’re welcome to come by and take a thorough look and even try them with one of my old holsters I’ve got laying around.

Bang4Buck wrote:You clicked it anyway, didn't you? Since I have your attention.....

I should have my CHL in the next week or two. I have an XDs 45, but I've decided this is not the gun for me. I want more capacity and less recoil. Personal preference.

If you like the size of the XDs, but don't want the XDs in 9mm, you might want to take a look at the Walther PPS. It is almost exactly the same size of the XDs and can carry 8+1 in 9mm or 7+1 in .40. The PPS is a bit lighter than the .45 XDs, and the recoil is easily managed.

If you're in the DFW area, I might be interested in your XDs if you decide to sell it - I think that's the next one for me, but I'll be keeping my PPS as well.

One thing I noticed upon moving out of the PRK to here and ditching the ten round magazines for my Sig 226 Navy in favor of the 18 rounders..... they weigh quite a bit more with 18 rounds!

I carry the pistol with 18+1 and a spare mag, 37 rounds in all, and the weight differnece is very noticeable. I'm not sure what the sensible tradoff between weight and round count is, somewhere there.

The answer to the OP is really simple, and I can't beleive it hasn't been said yet....................get a M&P9c AND a Glock 19.

Problem/debate over!!

canvasbck wrote:The answer to the OP is really simple, and I can't beleive it hasn't been said yet....................get a M&P9c AND a Glock 19.

Problem/debate over!!

I've been carrying my M&P 9c 16-18 hours a day for a couple of years and I'm completely satisfied. It goes bang every time and isn't particular about ammo. Easy to field strip, feels great in my hand. Wanting to stay with the M&P platform influenced my .22 pistol purchase decision - the M&P 22 feels exactly like my 9c except for the weight. Now I'd like to get a full size in a bigger caliber just for fun.

M&P! :)

I'm have this bug where I'm thinking I want a M&P compact in all calibers.

Bang4Buck wrote:

puma guy wrote:Do you move from one side of the table to the other while you were having this argument? My advice ... the one you shoot the most consistently and feel the most comfortable carrying. Adjust as necessary for given the situation/attire.

No kidding. In fairness, I have never shot a Glock. I'm going based on simple reputation, and they have a reputation for reliability, which is more important than anything.

I strongly suggest you shoot a Glock before buying one. To myself and many others the grip angle on them is a deal breaker. I am not willing to change the way I shoot and cock my wrist for the sights to properly line up, on all my other guns when I raise the firearm up the sights are aligned and it is simply squeeze the trigger, with a Glock I need to move my wrist to move the front sight down for proper sight alignment. That could be because I first learned to shoot handguns in the military and they were 1911's and this old dog does not need any new tricks.

Salty1 wrote:

Bang4Buck wrote:

puma guy wrote:Do you move from one side of the table to the other while you were having this argument? My advice ... the one you shoot the most consistently and feel the most comfortable carrying. Adjust as necessary for given the situation/attire.

No kidding. In fairness, I have never shot a Glock. I'm going based on simple reputation, and they have a reputation for reliability, which is more important than anything.

I strongly suggest you shoot a Glock before buying one. To myself and many others the grip angle on them is a deal breaker. I am not willing to change the way I shoot and cock my wrist for the sights to properly line up, on all my other guns when I raise the firearm up the sights are aligned and it is simply squeeze the trigger, with a Glock I need to move my wrist to move the front sight down for proper sight alignment. That could be because I first learned to shoot handguns in the military and they were 1911's and this old dog does not need any new tricks.

Many others? Maybe "some others" would be more appropriate wording. Last I checked Glock was still one of the best selling semi's on the market.
Some even claim the "grip angle" argument to be more myth than reality.

That photograph actually illustrates a significant difference in grip angle.

gigag04 wrote:M&P 9c is in between. It's a good choice if you can't pick 19 or 26, and aren't heavily invested in other flavors of the Glock platform (ie have a G17/34 and want a 26/19).

If you own other Glock 9mms, then the compact or subcompact Glock makes more sense due to mag interchangeability allowing you a full stack reload for an almost pocket pistol.

Same if you have other M&P 9s.

Makes sense to me, so I'm just going to add

jmra wrote:

Salty1 wrote:

Bang4Buck wrote:

puma guy wrote:Do you move from one side of the table to the other while you were having this argument? My advice ... the one you shoot the most consistently and feel the most comfortable carrying. Adjust as necessary for given the situation/attire.

No kidding. In fairness, I have never shot a Glock. I'm going based on simple reputation, and they have a reputation for reliability, which is more important than anything.

I strongly suggest you shoot a Glock before buying one. To myself and many others the grip angle on them is a deal breaker. I am not willing to change the way I shoot and cock my wrist for the sights to properly line up, on all my other guns when I raise the firearm up the sights are aligned and it is simply squeeze the trigger, with a Glock I need to move my wrist to move the front sight down for proper sight alignment. That could be because I first learned to shoot handguns in the military and they were 1911's and this old dog does not need any new tricks.

Many others? Maybe "some others" would be more appropriate wording. Last I checked Glock was still one of the best selling semi's on the market.
Some even claim the "grip angle" argument to be more myth than reality.
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I guess you could use the term some if you want, I personally know a lot of people who have issues with the grip angle. I will agree that Glock's are way up there with the top sellers and their reliability can hardly be questioned. Those who claim the grip angle is a myth clearly do not know what they are talking about and obviously fall into the Glock fanboy category. If people are willing to change the way they shoot for a manufacturer then they are free to do so, it is up to them, some of us just prefer to know that our sights are automatically lined up and choose handguns that fit our hands and the way we shoot. Since the OP had never shot one I was just pointing that out for reference. If he goes that route and it works for him that's great, would hate to see somebody spend their money and find out later that the handgun does not really work for them due to all the fan boys claiming how great they are..........

Salty1 wrote:

jmra wrote:

Salty1 wrote:

Bang4Buck wrote:

puma guy wrote:Do you move from one side of the table to the other while you were having this argument? My advice ... the one you shoot the most consistently and feel the most comfortable carrying. Adjust as necessary for given the situation/attire.

No kidding. In fairness, I have never shot a Glock. I'm going based on simple reputation, and they have a reputation for reliability, which is more important than anything.

I strongly suggest you shoot a Glock before buying one. To myself and many others the grip angle on them is a deal breaker. I am not willing to change the way I shoot and cock my wrist for the sights to properly line up, on all my other guns when I raise the firearm up the sights are aligned and it is simply squeeze the trigger, with a Glock I need to move my wrist to move the front sight down for proper sight alignment. That could be because I first learned to shoot handguns in the military and they were 1911's and this old dog does not need any new tricks.

Many others? Maybe "some others" would be more appropriate wording. Last I checked Glock was still one of the best selling semi's on the market.
Some even claim the "grip angle" argument to be more myth than reality.
[ Image ]

I guess you could use the term some if you want, I personally know a lot of people who have issues with the grip angle. I will agree that Glock's are way up there with the top sellers and their reliability can hardly be questioned. Those who claim the grip angle is a myth clearly do not know what they are talking about and obviously fall into the Glock fanboy category. If people are willing to change the way they shoot for a manufacturer then they are free to do so, it is up to them, some of us just prefer to know that our sights are automatically lined up and choose handguns that fit our hands and the way we shoot. Since the OP had never shot one I was just pointing that out for reference. If he goes that route and it works for him that's great, would hate to see somebody spend their money and find out later that the handgun does not really work for them due to all the fan boys claiming how great they are..........

I believe it's always a good idea to try before you buy.
I own 1911s, Glocks, and XDs. I find them all easy to shoot.
Advice to OP - if this is a weapon that you are going to carry for self defense, do not carry a handgun with an external safety until you have worked with the gun exatenively both at home and at the range in order to gain the muscle memory required to disengage the safety without having to think about it. Failure to disengage the safety can and has cost people their lives.