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Guns.com is coming out in support for the fired editor.

I'm accepting the editors apology.

He resigned and the now controversial Dick Metcalf is gone too.

So, one writer revealed himself to be less than admirable in his 2nd Amendment view. O.K. he's now gone. What else can the magazine do? Quit publishing because one writer was on the wrong side of things? I don't think so.

Not only do I like the magazine, I also enjoy their T.V. show with Kyle Lamb and Craig Boddington who're always doing interesting things.

talltex wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote:I buy G&A from time to time if I see something on the cover that catches my attention. However, I like "Shooting Times" and "Shooting Illustrated" a lot more. G&A rectified the situation; unfortunately, there was damage done. Dick Metcalf will likely now be persona non grata in the shooting community.

Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, and several other firearms related magazines are all owned by the same parent company, Intermedia Outdoors.

Okay, big companies own lots of stuff. Unfortunately, that's the way it is in our modern world.

I think a lot of this semi-warm thoughts on the 2nd Amendment depends on where one is from, either originally or currently. Dick Metcalf is from Illinois, I believe, so them just getting a semblance of permission to even have a handgun much less carry one is probably mind boggling to them. Kind of like living in North Korea, escaping and moving to South Korea. Those folks, as long as they don't have to worry about getting executed/imprisoned is a far better lifestyle than what they were used to, because South Korea isn't exactly the bastion of freedom such as Texas. So they are really willing to accept and agree with, probably most closed gates to full freedom. I read most of the comments on the Metcalf apology from Guns & Ammo and those from those beknighted states of California, Mass, New Jersey, Illinois see nothing wrong with his take, they are more than willing to bend to the State's will just to get a little bit of freedom that they currently don't have. Mr. Metcalf probably thought that what he suggests is perfectly conservative and probably even far reaching for Illinois gun rights. While for us from Texas and other truly pro-gun States he is just another mouthpiece for Brady et al. I guess it depends how close to Hades one is, is what one will accept for what they believe Heaven should be like. So I aint really mad at him, just need to keep a closer look at what those from current or former Fascist/Communist States say and do and try to get them trained up to proper freedom.

Jumping Frog wrote:Didn't do us any favors. Huff Post and Brady campaign are already quoting him.

Between this and seeing rumblings about the background check bill being back on the table, I'm afraid the tide is starting to turn.

SQLGeek wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:Didn't do us any favors. Huff Post and Brady campaign are already quoting him.

Between this and seeing rumblings about the background check bill being back on the table, I'm afraid the tide is starting to turn.

Are you saying you believe that gun control is becoming a popular opinion among the majority of Americans? I would say that is far from the truth and the reason the background check bill is being discussed again now is that it is the only straw they have left to grasp at since it did receive some favorable polling and bi-partisan support originally.

DEB wrote:I think a lot of this semi-warm thoughts on the 2nd Amendment depends on where one is from, either originally or currently. Dick Metcalf is from Illinois, I believe, so them just getting a semblance of permission to even have a handgun much less carry one is probably mind boggling to them. Kind of like living in North Korea, escaping and moving to South Korea. Those folks, as long as they don't have to worry about getting executed/imprisoned is a far better lifestyle than what they were used to, because South Korea isn't exactly the bastion of freedom such as Texas. So they are really willing to accept and agree with, probably most closed gates to full freedom.

I find that kinda ironic - no offense intended.
We live in a state where you can carry a hand gun. Well, if you pay fees to the government, get the training, and then you can carry it only if it's hidden so no one can tell.
On paper, you can carry a long gun, but in reality you'll be arrested if you were to try it in your local neighborhood, pubic space, or even during constitutionally protected speech. You can still carry both in your car because we have legislation and case law that definitively permit it.. Before MPA, people were arrested.

So I see the major differences between Texas and what you compare to above as:
1) It's legal to own firearms. Sale of firearms is *relatively* unencumbered in the private party space.
2) The real penalties for possessing a long gun in an open manner are less severe.

I'm sure this what was intended by the 2nd amendment, right?


Conditionally, I've got no issue with background checks.
Conditionally, I've got no issue with tying reasonable mental health checks and mental capacity to the right to buy firearms. Neither of these conditions apply to me.
The condition is - give me back the 2nd Amendment, as written. I'll take that trade. No trade? No deal.

Alternately, let's just scratch the 2nd amendment off the books because we're under the mistaken impression that it provides us rights that we don't actually have.

Note: I'm no fan of open-carry tactics and I'm not saying those guys are right. I'm just calling the spade a spade here.

mewalke wrote:
Are you saying you believe that gun control is becoming a popular opinion among the majority of Americans?

No...not yet anyways but I think we're starting to see opposition to the fringes of the latest gun control push starting to erode. I think those pushing gun control in Congress realize that these Feinstein type bills looking at banning semi automatic weapons outright only serve to galvanize their opposition in strong numbers. Nibbling at the edges though, with just a background check bill is seemingly much more palatable to many gun owners, including some posting on this forum. This bill is going to get brought up again because the Democrats feel emboldened in Congress after the GOP shutdown fiasco, the results of the November elections and because I'm sure the POTUS would welcome a diversion from the ACA implementation disaster.

Like dripping water, they'll keep pushing on the weaker parts until something gives way.

Other areas and issues across the country are shifting to the left, so I think this is a foregone conclusion of what can (will?) happen.

I hope to God I'm wrong but somehow I don't think I am.

SQLGeek wrote:

mewalke wrote:
Are you saying you believe that gun control is becoming a popular opinion among the majority of Americans?

No...not yet anyways but I think we're starting to see opposition to the fringes of the latest gun control push starting to erode. I think those pushing gun control in Congress realize that these Feinstein type bills looking at banning semi automatic weapons outright only serve to galvanize their opposition in strong numbers. Nibbling at the edges though, with just a background check bill is seemingly much more palatable to many gun owners, including some posting on this forum. This bill is going to get brought up again because the Democrats feel emboldened in Congress after the GOP shutdown fiasco, the results of the November elections and because I'm sure the POTUS would welcome a diversion from the ACA implementation disaster.

Like dripping water, they'll keep pushing on the weaker parts until something gives way.

Other areas and issues across the country are shifting to the left, so I think this is a foregone conclusion of what can (will?) happen.

I hope to God I'm wrong but somehow I don't think I am.

I agree they are going after the weakest link by going for background checks, and that will likely lead to the next weakest link. But our best defense is to continue growing the culture. Skyrocketing carry permits in almost every state, increased number of youth taking to the shooting sports, and - not directly in our control - a continued fall in overall violent crime rates. All of those things continue, we will be OK. Any of those things falter significantly, and we will be in trouble.