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BrassMonkey wrote:I wonder why the drivers consented.

People consent to searches because they think they are obliged to, or have nothing to hide, or feel intimidated.

Very few people study and think about their rights the way that some of us do.

- Jim

I have always refused simply because I did not have time. What good are rights if you don't use them?

BrassMonkey wrote:I have always refused simply because I did not have time. What good are rights if you don't use them?

Agreed. It has not come up since I was a teenager, but my standard prepared response is "no, you may not search my vehicle". If questioned further as to why not, my response will be something along the lines of "Because it's a waste of time for the both of us, and there's no reason for it."

As TXI stated earlier, there's nothing illegal about having a gun in your vehicle, especially if it's locked up in back. When I had a forensics officer come to dust for prints on/in my van when it was broken into, I told her right off that there were firearms inside. She didn't even bat an eye at that, or even ask what they were. I let her know where they were anyway, as she was going to be going into the van to take the prints. The only time it came up at all was when we discussed how perplexed we were that they left the guns when they were in locked cases, but attached to nothing (especially the little pistol case). She didn't even give a second glance to the ~2000 rounds of ammunition sitting in ammo cases there, other than the discussion of how it was odd that they went through them and pulled out a bunch of boxes of ammo but didn't take any.

KBCraig wrote: But tossing the trunk is not an unusual thing.

Kevin

Of course it is, your biased "facts" aside.

BrassMonkey wrote:I have always refused simply because I did not have time. What good are rights if you don't use them?

Really? Do you get stopped a lot and have the police ask to search your vehicle?

In the last 10years, twice. Carrolton PD. :-)

txinvestigator wrote:

KBCraig wrote: But tossing the trunk is not an unusual thing.

Kevin

Of course it is, your biased "facts" aside.

Sometime you really should get out of that world you live in, and look around.

I can't make a trip to DFW without seeing at least one vehicle being searched by a trooper, and thus my assertion stands: it is not unusual.

There is nothing biased about the fact that every time I travel more than 60 miles west on I-30 or south on US-59, I see a vehicle being searched. As I said (and you overlooked), I don't know if these are based on PC or consent, but the searches are being conducted.

Kevin