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Abraham wrote:He was one of my favorite actors.

There are only a few really great ones and he was one of them.

I'll miss seeing him in movies.

Really?

Oldgringo wrote:

Abraham wrote:He was one of my favorite actors.

There are only a few really great ones and he was one of them.

I'll miss seeing him in movies.

Really?

He ain't no John Wayne.

Oldgringo wrote:

Abraham wrote:He was one of my favorite actors.

There are only a few really great ones and he was one of them.

I'll miss seeing him in movies.

Really?

I was wondering the same thing. I wouldn't consider him great by any means.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

Abraham wrote:He was one of my favorite actors.

There are only a few really great ones and he was one of them.

I'll miss seeing him in movies.

Really?

He ain't no John Wayne.

Now THAT I agree with.

CoffeeNut wrote:

talltex wrote:

CoffeeNut wrote:He was great in Charlie Wilson's War and Capote but I won't shed a tear for a drug addict.

He was good in every role I saw him in. I think it's a shame that it happened, but he's certainly not the first performer is's happened to. Your statement seems a little harsh to me though. I hope you never have to deal with a family member or close friend in that situation...it can be heartbreaking when it happens.

I'm sorry but he had a partner and kids that were his responsibility and he chose drugs over that apparently more than once. I get that addiction is a powerful thing to kick, especially heroin, but Hollywood tends to glamorize these people while forgetting that they chose this path. I've dealt with addiction more than once in my family and I'm frankly tired of the excuses. I hope you never have to deal with drug dealers threatening your family because your father couldn't pay the bill and I hope you never have the FBI kick down your door because your father robbed banks to pay that bill.

It appears my opinion is not a popular one so I'll bow out now.

What is the statistic for death by drug overdose. They like to include suicide by gun in shooting deaths. Which is higher suicide by gun or drugs? How many children die each year from drugs verses shooting?

MeMelYup wrote:What is the statistic for death by drug overdose. They like to include suicide by gun in shooting deaths. Which is higher suicide by gun or drugs? How many children die each year from drugs verses shooting?

I assume your question is accidental deaths, I don't know the statistics but I would venture the firearm death rate is significantly lower than drugs/poisoning, falls, auto accidents etc. Latest stats I could find were for 2010 when accidental firearm deaths for children under 15 numbered 62. I don't know how many accidental drug deaths for the same age group or deaths from drowning in swimming pools.
Suicide by firearm is higher; Approx 50%, then Hanging/Suffocation 22.5% then Drugs/Poisoning 18.5%

Oldgringo wrote:

CoffeeNut wrote:

talltex wrote:

CoffeeNut wrote:He was great in Charlie Wilson's War and Capote but I won't shed a tear for a drug addict.

He was good in every role I saw him in. I think it's a shame that it happened, but he's certainly not the first performer is's happened to. Your statement seems a little harsh to me though. I hope you never have to deal with a family member or close friend in that situation...it can be heartbreaking when it happens.

I'm sorry but he had a partner and kids that were his responsibility and he chose drugs over that apparently more than once. I get that addiction is a powerful thing to kick, especially heroin, but Hollywood tends to glamorize these people while forgetting that they chose this path. I've dealt with addiction more than once in my family and I'm frankly tired of the excuses. I hope you never have to deal with drug dealers threatening your family because your father couldn't pay the bill and I hope you never have the FBI kick down your door because your father robbed banks to pay that bill.

It appears my opinion is not a popular one so I'll bow out now.

CoffeeNut,

If I say anything at all about your head being so far in... the sand... as I really believe it is I'll get kicked off by the Mods...

Grow up and stop blaming others for their diseases. And no I'm not justifying anything! I'm just saying don't demonize them and don't think that you, me, or anyone else is of any better moral fiber than anyone else. Someone died. Someone misses him. You don't have to grieve but you should at least be respectful.

Max

I hate that Hoffman succombed to his addiction after 20 years of sobriety. I hate that he left behind a partner and children who depended on him. But my Bible talks about grace, and it affirms that we are all sinners in need of forgiveness, including those of us who are saved by grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-10), and not by our own innate goodness and worthiness, or by anything we do or don't do. So the one thing I am NOT going to do is crap on Philip Seymour Hoffman's life and death. There, but for the grace of God, etc., etc.

I wish that I could be as perfect in this life as some of the posters I've read here today appear to be. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed......

The Annoyed Man wrote:I hate that Hoffman succombed to his addiction after 20 years of sobriety. I hate that he left behind a partner and children who depended on him. But my Bible talks about grace, and it affirms that we are all sinners in need of forgiveness, including those of us who are saved by grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-10), and not by our own innate goodness and worthiness, or by anything we do or don't do. So the one thing I am NOT going to do is crap on Philip Seymour Hoffman's life and death. There, but for the grace of God, etc., etc.

I wish that I could be as perfect in this life as some of the posters I've read here today appear to be. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed......

Well stated.

I thought that he was an excellent actor.

I think it is extremely sad that anyone becomes an addict, let alone die from it.

In my personal experience hard-core addicts generally have a difficult enough time just living a simple life, so It amazes me that such a good actor was able to practice his craft as he did while an addict.
This has taken me totally by surprise.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I hate that Hoffman succombed to his addiction after 20 years of sobriety. I hate that he left behind a partner and children who depended on him. But my Bible talks about grace, and it affirms that we are all sinners in need of forgiveness, including those of us who are saved by grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-10), and not by our own innate goodness and worthiness, or by anything we do or don't do. So the one thing I am NOT going to do is crap on Philip Seymour Hoffman's life and death. There, but for the grace of God, etc., etc.

I wish that I could be as perfect in this life as some of the posters I've read here today appear to be. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed......

Bravo, Annoyed.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I hate that Hoffman succombed to his addiction after 20 years of sobriety. I hate that he left behind a partner and children who depended on him. But my Bible talks about grace, and it affirms that we are all sinners in need of forgiveness, including those of us who are saved by grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-10), and not by our own innate goodness and worthiness, or by anything we do or don't do. So the one thing I am NOT going to do is crap on Philip Seymour Hoffman's life and death. There, but for the grace of God, etc., etc.

I wish that I could be as perfect in this life as some of the posters I've read here today appear to be. Can't say I'm not a little disappointed......

Amen, TAM.

The war on drugs has recently come under fire for failing to prevent drugs from entering our country after all this time and money being spent. The whole concept of illegal drugs is also under fire. The changes in Colorado point out the change in attitude.

Many libertarians feel all drugs should be legal.

I too believe in freedom. Do we really need all these prohibitions against things that are "victimless". Have we as a society done more harm by putting in prison so many people for things that people want to do on their own.

Then this happens.

Should we try and protect people from themselves.

Seems that we are failures on all sides. We can't stop it and we are afraid to let it have a life of its own.

Colorado will be the great experiment.

The CDC says 100 people die of a drug overdose every day and 3/4 of these are prescription drug overdoses, not a junky with a needle in his arm. We care more about this case because we identify with him. We have seen him on the silver screen. Nobody cares about the other 99 that died yesterday. He made his choices and paid the penalty for bad choices. Let him rest in peace. We will never "win" a war on drugs. There will always be people who will abuse them. Laws don't change human nature.