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Big Bronze Rim wrote:From everything I have read it seems they are hit or miss and that's enough for me to never want to waste my time with one. My wife liked it when she was shopping for a compact 9mm but she ended up with a Kahr PM9, based on reading about all the problems encountered by Solo owners. There are enough high quality, reliable 9mms out there to bother with a problem child.
Agree 100%. "Hit or miss" doesn't cut it at that price level. As a whole, Kimber is overhyped, IMHO.
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Big Bronze Rim wrote:From everything I have read it seems they are hit or miss and that's enough for me to never want to waste my time with one. My wife liked it when she was shopping for a compact 9mm but she ended up with a Kahr PM9, based on reading about all the problems encountered by Solo owners. There are enough high quality, reliable 9mms out there to bother with a problem child.
I have the same opinion of Kimber 1911's.

There are many people with well functioning Kimber 1911's. But there are also enough stories of people dissatisfied with poor Kimber customer service in response to problems that I'll never own anything branded Kimber.
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My dealings with Kimber's customer service have been excellent.I bought a used CDP (not CDP2) from a board member.The sights had lost their brightness and Kimber replced them for no charge.The Kimber runs like a Swiss watch,and I also have a Solo that works good also.
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I was very intrigued by the Solo when it first came out, but it was pretty pricey, and I wasn't really on the market for a "pocket 9" at the moment. However, it wasn't too long afterwards that I bought a used PM9 from a pawn shop in Balch Springs. At the time, first reports of the Solo's alleged unreliability were first coming out. I'm a Gun Tests Magazine subscriber, and they ran a May 2011 article comparing the Solo to the Kahr CW9, which I read avidly: http://www.gun-tests.com/issues/23_5/fe ... 878-1.html, requires subscription to view whole article. Overall, they liked the gun, but they also had the following comments:
On the range we loaded the gun first with some heavy loads and tried a few shots one handed. With 147-grain FMJ Black Hills ammo there was no pain. The gun just shoved our hand upward. But we noticed a sharp rap on our third finger from the sharp front edge of the magazine. In extended shooting for accuracy, this sharp edge cut through the skin of our third finger. We don’t like it when a gun makes us bleed. The solution would be to soften that sharp edge. However, we also had a very hard time getting the magazine out when we had the first of two jams. There’s not enough magazine to grab. Maybe the eight-round magazine would be easier to get out, but we did not have one to test. If the lip were extended forward another eighth of an inch it would provide more of a ledge to pull on. That may or may not help the gouging of the third finger.
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Kimber’s Solo is a smaller gun than the Kahr CW9, but we feel the average shooter will be happier with the Kahr unless he/she has a great need for the smaller package. If so, be prepared to wrestle with the hefty forces needed to retract the slide.
.....and.....
All in all, we liked the Solo, but we wonder about the extraordinary force needed to chamber a round or lock the slide back. As noted, we think Kimber needs to bevel or round the front edges of the magazines to prevent cutting the fingers.
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We think more shooters will be comfortable with the Kahr than the Solo. Although it’s larger and perhaps not in the same exact category, the Kahr is easier to shoot, easier on the hand and pocketbook, and seems to be reliable. We are starting to think some guns are just too small, but we haven’t tried them all yet. A bit of roughness that we felt in the Kahr’s slide movement was somewhat abated by the end of our shooting. We suspect the Kahr will find lots of buyers, especially among those who lack the strength to force the Solo’s slide back by hand.
The PM9 is smaller than the CW9, and so it is a much better for comparison purposes to the Solo than the CW9 is. Perhaps if there was a Solo available to compare the Kahr PM9 against when I bought the Kahr, I might have stepped up to the Solo. I don't know. What I do know is that I found a lightly used and very well preserved PM9 Black with Night Sights ($958.00 MSRP for NIB at the time) for $500.00, and Solos were rare as hen's teeth and nobody was selling them for much of a discount.

In terms of the fit, finish, and impression of build quality, the Solo qualifies as a "fine" gun, while the Kahr PM9 is less so. But, the Kahr has proven to be both a reliable and accurate little pistol. Also, despite weighing 3 oz less than the Solo (the difference between polymer and alloy frames), the PM9 has a 3.1" barrel to the Solo's 2.9", and the PM9 barrel has polygonal rifling, which gives it slightly higher muzzle velocity than standard rifled CM9, and makes the barrel easier to clean. When you're talking about 3" class barrels, that extra .2" of barrel might make a little bit of difference in bullet performance.....or not.....but it might.

And if you don't care about "fine" at all, you can have the CM9....essentially the same gun as the PM9....for half the price of the PM9. The PM9 also turns out to have a stiff recoil spring that makes racking the slide more difficult. Gee.....wouldn't you know it......that turns out to be a characteristic of tiny 9mm pistols, regardless of brand? Hindsight being 20/20, I have owned a 3" Kimber 1911 before, and it was a "fine" gun too, and if were to choose today between the Kahr PM9 with night sights and a Kimber Solo Carry DC with night sights, I'd buy the Kimber. They've been out long enough now for the bugs to be ironed out, I know how to follow ammo instructions, and it is by FAR the prettier gun. The Kahr undoubtedly functions just as well, and yes, guns are just tools, but I'll take a SNAP-ON over a Stanley tool any day of the week if the budget permits it.

What can I say? I like nice things. :lol:

Maybe some day, at the right price, a Solo will follow me home.
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Nice post, thanks for that TAM!
The Annoyed Man wrote:What can I say? I like nice things. :lol:
Yeah, me too. Isn't it funny that we want to carry the purtiest guns despite that we can't show them off, not in public anyway!

;-)

The Solo is on my Wish List, along with a Boberg (maybe the upcoming .45?). I loved the Rohrbaugh R9 that I handled at a Cabela's, but after bigtime research on the R9 I will stay FAR AWAY from that gorgeous little piece of... :nono:
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I must have won the Kimber lottery.

I picked up a barely-used Custom II a few years ago at Cabela's in Buda for $650 - guy behind the counter said it had to have been mis-priced - and it has been lights-out reliable (except with 185 gr lead semi-wadcutters). All I have changed is the recoil spring.

My father-in-law loves his Solo (Stainless, with laser grips). It has been very reliable, BUT. Before he shot it once (actually, *I* broke it in for him), I sat down after cleaning and oiling it and worked the slide 500 times(yes, I counted :shock: ). It IS a stiff spring to work, but since I did that, no failures that I know of. Also, nothing lighter than 124 gr ammo has been run through it.

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Working the slide on one of these guns, especially for folks of smaller stature, can be made easier by almost putting the gun against your chest, right hand on grip, left gripping over the top of the slide (or the opposite if you are a lefty), and pushing your hands in opposite directions with your chest muscles. I have surprised more ladies who never thought they could work a semi by showing them that technique.
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TomsTXCHL wrote:Nice post, thanks for that TAM!
The Annoyed Man wrote:What can I say? I like nice things. :lol:
Yeah, me too. Isn't it funny that we want to carry the purtiest guns despite that we can't show them off, not in public anyway!

;-)
Kinda like frilly underwear..... :smilelol5:
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
TomsTXCHL wrote:Nice post, thanks for that TAM!
The Annoyed Man wrote:What can I say? I like nice things. :lol:
Yeah, me too. Isn't it funny that we want to carry the purtiest guns despite that we can't show them off, not in public anyway!

;-)
Kinda like frilly underwear..... :smilelol5:
I hope that's not a confession. :mrgreen:
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get a glock
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Javier730 wrote:get a glock
:iagree: I just wish Glock made a 9mm the size of the solo.
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Javier730 wrote:get a glock
The obligatory glockboy speaks up. "rlol"

The OP is looking for a single stack 9mm pocket gun. Glock makes two single stack pistols: a .380 mouse gun, and a .45.......but no 9mm. I like a Glock OK, and we own one, but they aren't the "perfect pistol", and it's not what the OP wants.
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