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Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 4:28 am
by TexasGal
:shock: Wow. If that can happen, then maybe.... Ok, now I'm going to start buying lottery tickets. :biggrinjester:
Seriously, that is really cool.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 7:34 am
by Jumping Frog
VMI77 wrote:
Embalmo wrote:I would never mention or ask permission from an employer to legally carry. I would assume that no matter how pro gun the person is, she will answer no just to avoid the potential liability of officially granting such permission. Besides, every work setting has at least one idiot that can't keep his mouth shut.
That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.
There are always exceptions to the rule. But if I was a betting man then I am going to go with the odds.

There are far more companies with hundreds of employees that will not allow concealed carry by employees. Too many people like me with "risk" in their titles who worry about "industry best practices". For example, here is a recent training webinar I listened to: http://web.uslaw.org/webinars/locked-lo ... workplace/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It discusses why companies should enforce firearms bans in the workplace and and how to do so legally, written and presented by an Illinois attorney.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 10:13 pm
by budroux2w
I'm not allowed to carry at work per company policy, no 30.06 signs on the building nor in the HR policy. That's exactly why I "don't" as far as any are concerned. One of the VPs there knows i have my license, hasn't ever asked or said anything. if she did ask, i dont have to tell.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sat May 17, 2014 11:07 pm
by Embalmo
That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:29 am
by WildBill
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
I would love for you to be wrong too, but yours is the first I have heard. I haven't heard of this happening in a large company of non-Obama voters either.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:55 am
by Embalmo
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
I would love for you to be wrong too, but yours is the first I have heard. I haven't heard of this happening in a large company of non-Obama voters either.
That isn't my post. I just quoted it incorrectly. I've never heard of a liberal led company that hosts CHL classes.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:57 am
by WildBill
Embalmo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
I would love for you to be wrong too, but yours is the first I have heard. I haven't heard of this happening in a large company of non-Obama voters either.
That isn't my post. I just quoted it incorrectly. I've never heard of a liberal led company that hosts CHL classes.
Now I see that. My apologies. :tiphat:

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:00 am
by Embalmo
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
I would love for you to be wrong too, but yours is the first I have heard. I haven't heard of this happening in a large company of non-Obama voters either.
That isn't my post. I just quoted it incorrectly. I've never heard of a liberal led company that hosts CHL classes.
Now I see that. My apologies. :tiphat:
Please, I'm the one who should apologize because I forgot how to use this forum.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 am
by WildBill
Embalmo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:
WildBill wrote:
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
I would love for you to be wrong too, but yours is the first I have heard. I haven't heard of this happening in a large company of non-Obama voters either.
That isn't my post. I just quoted it incorrectly. I've never heard of a liberal led company that hosts CHL classes.
Now I see that. My apologies. :tiphat:
Please, I'm the one who should apologize because I forgot how to use this forum.
Once in a while, I do the same thing. ;-)

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:14 pm
by rayj8524
My two cents worth, just over 5 years ago when I did my CHL class, several of us at work were talking about taking the class and that they wanted to take it as well. My employer, pro-gun and a hunter, made the remark that he didn't know how to feel about someone carrying at work. He knew that since he owned the music store he could even open carry if he wanted to, but wasn't sure how to feel about it. He didn't say yes, he didn't say no. I have been carrying concealed since and nothing has been said. I'm sure i have imprinted more than once or twice, but nothing has been said.

So taking the advice giving to our military, "Don't ask, don't tell." :patriot:

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 10:34 am
by VMI77
Embalmo wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.

I would absolutely love to be wrong about not believing that this country is filled with Obama voting employers who host CHL classes for its hundreds of employees. :drool:
Oh, I'm not denying that it is exceptional. My only point is that not every employer prohibits carry. I have no idea how many do out of the pool of how many don't. All I'm saying is that in my company, run by a man who fancies himself to be a liberal, it is allowed, and I can't believe we're the only company like that in the state of Texas, when many company heads are probably conservative.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:39 pm
by OldGrumpy
jmra wrote:
LAYGO wrote:
crice8 wrote:But from an employee standpoint I would be breaching my contract and fired.
And that's the gist of all of this. You would be legal to carry without notice, but that doesn't say they can't or won't terminate you.

What's more important? Your safety & well being or a job at a coffee shop?
I can not carry at work but I choose to be there anyway. I don't believe that I am placing more importance on my job than I am my safety and well being though. I chose to work where I do because it allows me to be with my kids and ensure their safety and well being (I work at my sons school).
If I worked at a coffee shop and had not received notice, I would carry.
:patriot: :txflag: :iagree:

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 1:52 pm
by kg5ie
budroux2w wrote:I'm not allowed to carry at work per company policy, no 30.06 signs on the building nor in the HR policy. That's exactly why I "don't" as far as any are concerned. One of the VPs there knows i have my license, hasn't ever asked or said anything. if she did ask, i dont have to tell.

Interesting statement. No 30.06 and not in HR policy. So how were you informed? I assume orally. Are all new hires told that they cannot carry? Absolutely not throwing any stones....just a very interesting situation. Most employers know that if they want to prohibit...they SHOULD have it in the HR policy.

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Mon May 19, 2014 3:46 pm
by pops1982
VMI77 wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.
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Now that is one CONFUSED boss. :???:

Re: concealed carry and new job

Posted: Tue May 20, 2014 1:07 pm
by VMI77
pops1982 wrote:
VMI77 wrote:That would be a false assumption. I work for a company with hundreds of employees and it explicitly grants CHL holders permission to carry on company property. The company also held a CHL class for employees wanting to get a CHL. And the boss here who made this happen is politically liberal and voted for Obama.
Now that is one CONFUSED boss. :???:[/quote]

No, it just shows that there are something like 1 out of 1,000 liberals who believe in the right to self-defense. I've never met any others, but I have seen a couple liberal blogs on the internet that also support the right to self-defense.