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puma guy wrote:

philip964 wrote:A man killed six relatives and shot one more in Houston today. He then went on a quest to kill more relatives but was intercepted by the police. He the went on a televised OJ chase through Spring. He is now trapped in his car at the end of a culdesac. This is still active at the moment.

Then at almost the same time a veteran firefighter was killed putting out a residential fire.

Then the news starts talking about all his ammunition exploding in the house fire. Oh great isthis what killed the firefighter?

Five of the people killed were children.

RIP.

Very sad situation. Are you saying the fire was started by the gunman? Even if he set the fire smokeless ammunition in a fire has very little energy, not nearly enough to be lethal. There have been myriad demonstrations of unsupported ignition of smokeless cartridges and shell and fires the demonstrate that fact. They barely penetrate cardboard and sheetrock.
Here's a demo by SAAMI

Facts versus "news" fiction.

I truly don't understand why sickos have to involve children in their fights

Some think he's already trying to set up an insanity defense. Although he apparently does have a history of mental illness, he clearly knew right from wrong. For criminal law purposes, that's "sane." He ran from the COPs when he saw them on the grandparents street, so it's clear he know what he did at the prior home was "wrong."

He needs to die. He needs to die soon, but that's not going to happen. When he faked his fainting spell when being arraigned, they should have rolled him over on his stomach and dragged him out by his feet.

Chas.

it will be interesting to see if he actually lives long enough to make it to trial.

sbrawley wrote:I'd be surprised if the jury takes longer than an hour to decide his fate.

...and the appeals will drag out until when...at your and my expense.

sbrawley wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sbrawley wrote:I'd be surprised if the jury takes longer than an hour to decide his fate.

...and the appeals will drag out until when...at your and my expense.

and that's the problem...the mandatory appeals process for capital punishment.

imho, better to go through these mandatory appeals, than to execute an innocent soul. This devil is obviously a murder, but not every situation is as clear.

Texas_Blaze wrote:

sbrawley wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sbrawley wrote:I'd be surprised if the jury takes longer than an hour to decide his fate.

...and the appeals will drag out until when...at your and my expense.

and that's the problem...the mandatory appeals process for capital punishment.

imho, better to go through these mandatory appeals, than to execute an innocent soul. This devil is obviously a murder, but not every situation is as clear.

The automatic appeals are a good idea, but they should be greatly accelerated and there should be one trip through the appellate courts. So plead everything you have or it's waived. If new evidence is found before the defendant is executed, and that evidence conclusively proves innocence, then a new trial should be available. Nothing should take more than a year at the outside. There aren't that many death penalty cases in the entire State to prevent getting it done in a year.

If it's later learned, either before or after the defendant is executed, that prosecutors, judges, or LEO's falsified evidence or hid exculpatory evidence, then all involved should be executed. If appeals in death penalty cases are accelerated, then there better be very strong deterrent to prosecutorial, judicial or LEO misconduct.

Chas.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Texas_Blaze wrote:

sbrawley wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sbrawley wrote:I'd be surprised if the jury takes longer than an hour to decide his fate.

...and the appeals will drag out until when...at your and my expense.

and that's the problem...the mandatory appeals process for capital punishment.

imho, better to go through these mandatory appeals, than to execute an innocent soul. This devil is obviously a murder, but not every situation is as clear.

The automatic appeals are a good idea, but they should be greatly accelerated and there should be one trip through the appellate courts. So plead everything you have or it's waived. If new evidence is found before the defendant is executed, and that evidence conclusively proves innocence, then a new trial should be available. Nothing should take more than a year at the outside. There aren't that many death penalty cases in the entire State to prevent getting it done in a year.

If it's later learned, either before or after the defendant is executed, that prosecutors, judges, or LEO's falsified evidence or hid exculpatory evidence, then all involved should be executed. If appeals in death penalty cases are accelerated, then there better be very strong deterrent to prosecutorial, judicial or LEO misconduct.

Chas.

There it is! The man knows of whence he speaks.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

Texas_Blaze wrote:

sbrawley wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:

sbrawley wrote:I'd be surprised if the jury takes longer than an hour to decide his fate.

...and the appeals will drag out until when...at your and my expense.

and that's the problem...the mandatory appeals process for capital punishment.

imho, better to go through these mandatory appeals, than to execute an innocent soul. This devil is obviously a murder, but not every situation is as clear.

The automatic appeals are a good idea, but they should be greatly accelerated and there should be one trip through the appellate courts. So plead everything you have or it's waived. If new evidence is found before the defendant is executed, and that evidence conclusively proves innocence, then a new trial should be available. Nothing should take more than a year at the outside. There aren't that many death penalty cases in the entire State to prevent getting it done in a year.

If it's later learned, either before or after the defendant is executed, that prosecutors, judges, or LEO's falsified evidence or hid exculpatory evidence, then all involved should be executed. If appeals in death penalty cases are accelerated, then there better be very strong deterrent to prosecutorial, judicial or LEO misconduct.

Chas.

Now, a system like that would have true justice and accountability, but it seems like the system has been moving in the opposite direction, and the higher up the food chain, the less accountability there is.

Update:
Ronald Haskell sentenced to death in Stay family massacre

ETA:
More details in this one:
Jurors sentence Ronald Haskell to death in Stay family murders

Why did it take 5 yrs to close the case?

Beiruty wrote: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:55 am Why did it take 5 yrs to close the case?

The wheels of justice turn slowly. This case won't be closed until the sentence is carried out.