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Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:35 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Hindenburg wrote:anygunanywhere wrote:There is no Constitution anymore.
Anygunanywhere
It still exists but its domestic enemies are in charge now. They have been since the Supreme Court ruled against Miller in 1939. If there was any doubt that should have been erased by the ruling against Filburn in 1942.
I was just reading up on
Filburn on Wikipedia. The page says:
Filburn argued that since the excess wheat he produced was intended solely for home consumption, his wheat production could not be regulated through the Interstate Commerce Clause. The Supreme Court rejected this argument, reasoning that if Filburn had not used home-grown wheat, he would have had to buy wheat on the open market. This effect on interstate commerce, the Court reasoned, may not be substantial from the actions of Filburn alone but, through the cumulative actions of thousands of other farmers just like Filburn, its effect would certainly become substantial. Therefore Congress could regulate wholly intrastate, non-commercial activity if such activity, viewed in the aggregate, would have a substantial effect on interstate commerce, even if the individual effects are trivial.
One wonders how much of this reasoning went into the notion that government can create a stream of commerce, and then
require citizens to participate in it [subliminal]
Obamacare[/subliminal].......even if they have other means of mitigating the problem that stream of commerce is intended to mitigate and do not need or want to participate in the government's solution.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:14 pm
by KD5NRH
The other part of this mess just makes me wonder if they're trying to get an insurrection:
The coalition had submitted more than 55,000 signatures in the referendum drive. City Secretary Anna Russell confirmed in writing Aug. 1 that the petition sponsors had submitted 17,846 qualified signatures, nearly 600 above the minimum 17,269.
However, City Attorney David Feldman announced 2,750 petitions were invalid because of “technical problems.”
Opponents have argued Feldman did not have the authority to step in and make the decision and that it should have been handled by the courts.
Critics dubbed the Houston law the “sexual predator protection act,” claiming that by designating transgender or gender-confused persons as a protected class, women and children are threatened by predators seeking to exploit the ordinance’s ambiguous language.
IMO, any religion has an absolute right to speak out against people who are effectively saying that their deity isn't even bright enough to know which genitals to stick on a fetus.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:06 pm
by philip964
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Well in the last day or so this has caught fire.
Tea Party, Senator Ted Cruz, Michael Berry have all said something.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:10 pm
by Abraham
As an adult I was disgusted by my first introduction to gender neutral bathrooms in St. Tropez, France.
I was doing my business in a restaurant/bar bathroom, when in walks a middle age woman. No, I didn't flip out, but I could tell she was just as guarded as me. Not pleasant...
Later, in Paris, with my back to them, a whole troop of middle school girls came flying down the stairs of a loser level restroom while I'm standing at a urinal trough doing my business. This was at the Eiffel Tower. I was mortified.
Sure, you could say, well you're just an uptight American, but I do wonder how many deviants are happy with such an environment...?
Male and Female bathroom/restroom/loo/W.C. whatever you care to call them should be gender segregated!
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:18 pm
by KD5NRH
Abraham wrote:As an adult I was disgusted by my first introduction to gender neutral bathrooms in St. Tropez, France.
Not even gender neutral, but the mens room in Carlsbad Cavern is laid out so that anyone walking in the entryway is staring straight down a line of urinals without dividers. If it's crowded, it's about 20-30 guys' junk hanging out in a row. It's dark in the cavern, the bathrooms are bright, so even around the corner it's something of a glaring backlight, and the sign is small, so I can understand why two early 20s girls came in, but it still wasn't a particularly comfortable moment as all of us simultaneously looked right at the sound of a pair of female expressions of surprise in the doorway...though in retrospect, their expressions just before they turned and ran were hilarious.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:15 am
by sjfcontrol
My first (and only) experience with a gender neutral restroom (I believe they were called 'unisex' restrooms) was many years ago in Europe. But in this case, each toilet was in a tiny room with floor-to-ceiling cinderblock walls, and a solid, lockable door. Outside of the cubbies, was a common area with sinks and mirrors. Seemed a little odd to me, but the actual process of "taking care of business" was private.
I don't think I've ever been in a restroom that could handle 30 simultaneous users, WOW!
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:26 pm
by Jumping Frog
Greg Abbot was on KTRH this morning saying the AG office sent a "cease and desist" letter to Houston. Needless to say, he had strong statements regarding freedom of worship.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:33 pm
by Vol Texan
sjfcontrol wrote:My first (and only) experience with a gender neutral restroom (I believe they were called 'unisex' restrooms) was many years ago in Europe. But in this case, each toilet was in a tiny room with floor-to-ceiling cinderblock walls, and a solid, lockable door. Outside of the cubbies, was a common area with sinks and mirrors. Seemed a little odd to me, but the actual process of "taking care of business" was private.
I don't think I've ever been in a restroom that could handle 30 simultaneous users, WOW!
Pick any Buc-ees superstore, and you'll see that, easily. And each one you visit will be the cleanest one you've ever seen in your life!
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:23 pm
by victory
Abraham wrote:Sure, you could say, well you're just an uptight American, but I do wonder how many deviants are happy with such an environment...?
A lot of deviants seem happy with the current situation where guys are peeking at other guys. Personally, if some stranger is going to check out my package, I think I might prefer a female admirer.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:47 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
Jumping Frog wrote:Greg Abbot was on KTRH this morning saying the AG office sent a "cease and desist" letter to Houston. Needless to say, he had strong statements regarding freedom of worship.
I was lukewarm positive on Abbott until I read extracts form his official letter. Me likey!
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:48 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
Vol Texan wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:My first (and only) experience with a gender neutral restroom (I believe they were called 'unisex' restrooms) was many years ago in Europe. But in this case, each toilet was in a tiny room with floor-to-ceiling cinderblock walls, and a solid, lockable door. Outside of the cubbies, was a common area with sinks and mirrors. Seemed a little odd to me, but the actual process of "taking care of business" was private.
I don't think I've ever been in a restroom that could handle 30 simultaneous users, WOW!
Pick any Buc-ees superstore, and you'll see that, easily. And each one you visit will be the cleanest one you've ever seen in your life!
both of those points are true. They are extremely clean. Also some of the newer ones are intentionally...huge, like handling 100 people ata time huge.
They're exactly what you need at a concert or major event but never get.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:41 pm
by KD5NRH
sjfcontrol wrote:I don't think I've ever been in a restroom that could handle 30 simultaneous users, WOW!
This appears to have been taken from a couple of steps inside the room, and a step to the left of where one rounds the corner. There are at least a couple more behind the field of view here, and 2-3 more behind the center wall. Don't recall for sure if the entryway wall behind the camera also has a row, but I think it does. Imagine standing in line with those urinals and all of them occupied, including the line along the back wall, and you'll have a fair idea of what those girls were surprised by.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:53 pm
by LDB415
This is what you get when you elect a far left single issue candidate whose single issue is radically anti-normalcy.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:55 pm
by sjfcontrol
KD5NRH wrote:sjfcontrol wrote:I don't think I've ever been in a restroom that could handle 30 simultaneous users, WOW!
This appears to have been taken from a couple of steps inside the room, and a step to the left of where one rounds the corner. There are at least a couple more behind the field of view here, and 2-3 more behind the center wall. Don't recall for sure if the entryway wall behind the camera also has a row, but I think it does. Imagine standing in line with those urinals and all of them occupied, including the line along the back wall, and you'll have a fair idea of what those girls were surprised by.
Was there supposed to be a picture, or something?
Hmmmm, talk about thread drift -- from subpoenaing pastors sermons, to men's rooms.
Re: City of Houston subpoenas Pastors sermons
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:57 pm
by KD5NRH
LDB415 wrote:This is what you get when you elect a far left single issue candidate whose single issue is radically anti-normalcy.
Actually, those urinals were installed during the Hoover administration IIRC.
