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Rifleman55 wrote:You can take ammunition on most commercial flights, most have a weight limit, and it must be declared. The last that I heard it was not Haz mat. You can order it shipped to your house, and it is not labeled with a haz mat sticker just orm-d.

There are weight limits for aircraft. A thousand rounds would be exceeding allowable aircraft limits.

Check my math guys. I went to one of those online conversion sites.

1000 bullets of 55gr .223 weighs 55,000 grains = just under 7.9 pounds

1000 bullets of 230gr .45ACP weighs 230,000 grains = just under 32.9 pounds

I don't think it was the weight limit of the aircraft.

Jumping Frog wrote:

Rifleman55 wrote:You can take ammunition on most commercial flights, most have a weight limit, and it must be declared. The last that I heard it was not Haz mat. You can order it shipped to your house, and it is not labeled with a haz mat sticker just orm-d.

There are weight limits for aircraft. A thousand rounds would be exceeding allowable aircraft limits.

Most of the time that HazMat can ship ORM-D via ground transportation yet is forbidden on aircraft is due to aircraft generally having lower allowable quantity weight limits.

Given C-dub's observation on weight, I looked up the shipping weight of 1000 rounds of .223 and determined it is about 28 lbs, or just under 13 kg.

The Hazardous Materials Table published in the E-CFR (http://www.ecfr.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, 49 CFR Section 172.101) for Cartridges, small arms lists 30 kg as the weight limit for passenger aircraft, but "forbidden" for cargo aircraft. An odd restriction.