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Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 11:35 pm
by FL450
txcharvel wrote:I top off my LC9S as well and simply put in the safe whenever I'm not carrying. I keep it chambered with the safety on.

Every couple of weeks, if I take it apart to lube it or maybe clean it, I eject the round that was chambered, empty my mag, and put that round in first. That way I always have a fairly fresh round in the chamber to avoid this very issue.

Plus, I'm told that the Hornady Critical Defense rounds are made to minimize setback issues. I've used other defense rounds but try to stick to the Hornady Critical Defense for this reason.
I have to unchamber often when I am flying trips in the corporate jet as the boss doesnt want a round chambered in the aircraft. I have been using Criticle Defense for years and unchamber/ chamber the same round often.
I have never had an issue with setback. Spoke with a Hornaday rep at a gun show and he said the way they are crimped minimizes risk of setback and he was not aware of any issues with CD.

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:54 am
by surferdaddy
Hey FL450, thanks for the info on critical defense; I had always heard it was very resistant to set back.

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:34 am
by FL450
surferdaddy wrote:Hey FL450, thanks for the info on critical defense; I had always heard it was very resistant to set back.
Your welcome, now if I could only spell it right

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:00 am
by mr1337
surferdaddy wrote:My bullet trap is my tempurpedic, probably not nearly as effective as yours.
That's one expensive bullet trap!

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:56 am
by surferdaddy
mr1337 wrote:
surferdaddy wrote:My bullet trap is my tempurpedic, probably not nearly as effective as yours.
That's one expensive bullet trap!
Haha... yeah, I guess it is.

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:57 pm
by Jumping Frog
My method is more complicated to write than it is to actually do.

First, I typically clear my everyday carry gun roughly every 2-4 weeks to clean it, unless I am shooting it in between.

I typically have 3 mags loaded that are labeled "A", "B", and "C".

So if the round in the chamber is round #1, and the magazine in the gun contains rounds that are consecutively numbered rounds 2, 3, 4, . . . 16. The next two magazines contain rounds that are consecutively numbered 17, 18 . . . . 31 and then 32, 33, .... 47.

Basically, the round that comes out of the chamber gets sent to the "back of the line" in position # 47 and every other round moves up one space in line.

I'd have to unload the gun 47 times for every round to have been chambered once. I'd have to unload the gun 47x2 times for every round to have been chambered twice, etc.

I've never kept carry ammo longer in rotation than about 2-3 years, so on average each round has been chambered one or two times.

Here is an example from an acquaintance who repeatedly re-chambered the same rounds until he recognized this problem:

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Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 3:00 am
by AdioSS
Some people are required to clear their weapons daily. Bullet setback is a real issue.

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:17 am
by WildBill
surferdaddy wrote:Hey FL450, thanks for the info on critical defense; I had always heard it was very resistant to set back.
Backing up what FL450 said - Hornady Critical Duty ammo have bullets which are cannelured.

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Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2015 4:09 pm
by TresHuevos
WildBill wrote:
surferdaddy wrote:Hey FL450, thanks for the info on critical defense; I had always heard it was very resistant to set back.
Backing up what FL450 said - Hornady Critical Duty ammo have bullets which are cannelured.

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That really is an excellent selling point for most CHL carriers. I wonder why they don't highlight it more? This is the first that I've heard of it.

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:11 am
by surferdaddy
TresHuevos wrote:
WildBill wrote:
surferdaddy wrote:Hey FL450, thanks for the info on critical defense; I had always heard it was very resistant to set back.
Backing up what FL450 said - Hornady Critical Duty ammo have bullets which are cannelured.

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That really is an excellent selling point for most CHL carriers. I wonder why they don't highlight it more? This is the first that I've heard of it.
I agree completely, wonder why more manufacturers don't do this; cost savings perhaps?

Re: Any way to minimize bullet setback?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:19 pm
by VMI77
Most of my guns are loaded, round chambered, when in the safe. If my wife handles any of those guns it will be because she needs it to defend herself against an intruder. If for some reason she or I have to go to the safe for a gun I don't want to find my hand wrapped around the grip of one that isn't loaded.

I handle my concern about set back when I go to shoot a particular gun. The chambered round stays and I put in a fresh mag of target ammo, so I go through a few self-defense rounds every year. The cost is inconsequential. If I did it twice a month that would only be about one box of Critical Duty per year.