I'm sure it was on my part. My brain starts to shut down earlier than my body these days.joe817 wrote:Ahhhh, Ok I see what you are getting at.![]()
Those items are in Sections 42, 43 and 44 of Government Code 411.
There IS some wording changes of the existing 30.06, and the addition to the new 30.07.
IMO, those changes are necessary to accomodate open carry.
I really don't see where the confusion is though.
Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
So I'm just going to assume old 30.06 signs will become invalid unless they update with the current wording? Just wondering how people would treat the old signs in 2016 if they are encountered...joe817 wrote:Ahhhh, Ok I see what you are getting at.![]()
Those items are in Sections 42, 43 and 44 of Government Code 411.
There IS some wording changes of the existing 30.06, and the addition to the new 30.07.
IMO, those changes are necessary to accomodate open carry.
I really don't see where the confusion is though.
Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
I would not want to try to convince a jury that a change in a few words meant I had not received notice.casp625 wrote:So I'm just going to assume old 30.06 signs will become invalid unless they update with the current wording? Just wondering how people would treat the old signs in 2016 if they are encountered...joe817 wrote:Ahhhh, Ok I see what you are getting at.![]()
Those items are in Sections 42, 43 and 44 of Government Code 411.
There IS some wording changes of the existing 30.06, and the addition to the new 30.07.
IMO, those changes are necessary to accomodate open carry.
I really don't see where the confusion is though.
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
What about all those signs that reference the old 29eee Vernon Code? I agree it would probably be an uphill battle in court, but we often debate the minutia and clear wording of the law around here.jmra wrote:I would not want to try to convince a jury that a change in a few words meant I had not received notice.casp625 wrote:So I'm just going to assume old 30.06 signs will become invalid unless they update with the current wording? Just wondering how people would treat the old signs in 2016 if they are encountered...joe817 wrote:Ahhhh, Ok I see what you are getting at.![]()
Those items are in Sections 42, 43 and 44 of Government Code 411.
There IS some wording changes of the existing 30.06, and the addition to the new 30.07.
IMO, those changes are necessary to accomodate open carry.
I really don't see where the confusion is though.
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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
I really hope the debate hits home that it's already illegal to carry while intoxicated when the Dems bring up the "blood in the streets" argument in bars. Of course alcohol and guns don't mix, but not all 51% locations are bars (See: Moody Theatre/ACL Live in Austin) and not everyone going to a bar is there to drink. (Designated driver, comedy show, etc.)
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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
I'm pretty sure I heard Bass Performance Hall had a big drunken brawl at the symphony the other night.mr1337 wrote:... but not all 51% locations are bars (See: Moody Theatre/ACL Live in Austin) and not everyone going to a bar is there to drink. (Designated driver, comedy show, etc.)

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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
Some folks just can't handle their wine.Keith B wrote:I'm pretty sure I heard Bass Performance Hall had a big drunken brawl at the symphony the other night.mr1337 wrote:... but not all 51% locations are bars (See: Moody Theatre/ACL Live in Austin) and not everyone going to a bar is there to drink. (Designated driver, comedy show, etc.)

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Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
When it comes to the minutiae of law, you never want a jury trial. This is strictly a judge-only scenario....esp. if you get a judge that is a stickler to the letter of the law.jmra wrote:I would not want to try to convince a jury that a change in a few words meant I had not received notice.casp625 wrote:So I'm just going to assume old 30.06 signs will become invalid unless they update with the current wording? Just wondering how people would treat the old signs in 2016 if they are encountered...joe817 wrote:Ahhhh, Ok I see what you are getting at.![]()
Those items are in Sections 42, 43 and 44 of Government Code 411.
There IS some wording changes of the existing 30.06, and the addition to the new 30.07.
IMO, those changes are necessary to accomodate open carry.
I really don't see where the confusion is though.
Re: Question on 30.06 (and 30.07)
I missed it AGAIN?Keith B wrote:I'm pretty sure I heard Bass Performance Hall had a big drunken brawl at the symphony the other night.mr1337 wrote:... but not all 51% locations are bars (See: Moody Theatre/ACL Live in Austin) and not everyone going to a bar is there to drink. (Designated driver, comedy show, etc.)

Keep calm and carry.
Licensing (n.) - When government takes away your right to do something and sells it back to you.
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