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Abraham wrote:Why should we celebrate another country's remembrance?

e pluribus unum

Personally... I'm happy to celebrate any ethnic or civil holiday that involves good food.
I grew up in a 1st/2nd generation American neighborhood in a big diverse city. I had the great fortune of celebrating many holidays and traditions that were not culturally my own. Rest assured that all of those folks from other places were Americans first. Nobody ever referred to themselves as Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans. There was no divided loyalty. And that didn't take anything away from the Pasta Fagioli.

RoyGBiv wrote:

Abraham wrote:Why should we celebrate another country's remembrance?

e pluribus unum

Personally... I'm happy to celebrate any ethnic or civil holiday that involves good food.
I grew up in a 1st/2nd generation American neighborhood in a big diverse city. I had the great fortune of celebrating many holidays and traditions that were not culturally my own. Rest assured that all of those folks from other places were Americans first. Nobody ever referred to themselves as Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans. There was no divided loyalty. And that didn't take anything away from the Pasta Fagioli.

True, but when the holiday is twisted by progs to further their agenda of political correctness it becomes a bit more than many can tolerate.

anygunanywhere wrote:

RoyGBiv wrote:

Abraham wrote:Why should we celebrate another country's remembrance?

e pluribus unum

Personally... I'm happy to celebrate any ethnic or civil holiday that involves good food.
I grew up in a 1st/2nd generation American neighborhood in a big diverse city. I had the great fortune of celebrating many holidays and traditions that were not culturally my own. Rest assured that all of those folks from other places were Americans first. Nobody ever referred to themselves as Italian-Americans or Irish-Americans. There was no divided loyalty. And that didn't take anything away from the Pasta Fagioli.

True, but when the holiday is twisted by progs to further their agenda of political correctness it becomes a bit more than many can tolerate.

Meh! Never let the morans take the fun out of a good ethnic celebration...

My daughter works as a school counselor at a high school in Brownsville. They celebrate a local holiday similar to CDM with a day off from school but do not celebrate Memorial Day. Just not right IMHO

RPBrown wrote:My daughter works as a school counselor at a high school in Brownsville. They celebrate a local holiday similar to CDM with a day off from school but do not celebrate Memorial Day. Just not right IMHO

Having married a Brownsville girl I know that Brownsville is not part of the US.

TVGuy wrote:

bulinm wrote:Cinco de Mayo is celebrated here as an occasion to get drunk. Why do we celebrate St. Patrick's day ?

This. Plus, it was believed that if the French overtook Mexico they might invade the US next. IIRC

The French.

VMI77 wrote:

TVGuy wrote:

bulinm wrote:Cinco de Mayo is celebrated here as an occasion to get drunk. Why do we celebrate St. Patrick's day ?

This. Plus, it was believed that if the French overtook Mexico they might invade the US next. IIRC

The French.

Yeah, ridiculous. I swear I've read that somewhere though.

TVGuy wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

TVGuy wrote:

bulinm wrote:Cinco de Mayo is celebrated here as an occasion to get drunk. Why do we celebrate St. Patrick's day ?

This. Plus, it was believed that if the French overtook Mexico they might invade the US next. IIRC

The French.

Yeah, ridiculous. I swear I've read that somewhere though.

Well, maybe not so ridiculous.....because Napoleon for example....but I couldn't resist a laugh at their expense.

Comparing CDM with St. Pat's day demonstrates an incredible ethnic inequality...

On CDM we get Tequila! On St. Pat's day all we get is green beer.

sjfcontrol wrote:Comparing CDM with St. Pat's day demonstrates an incredible ethnic inequality...

On CDM we get Tequila! On St. Pat's day all we get is green beer.

Abraham wrote:Anyone here know why CDM is celebrated (by quite a few) in the U.S. when it's origins hail from another country?

Plus, does any other country celebrate our special times, such as the 4th of July?

Anyone know?

Abraham, I don't know about other countries, but the US has long adapted the customs and cultures of other countries to our unique culture. We celebrate New Years Day, St. Patricks Day, Cinco De Mayo, St. Valentine's Day, April Fools Day, Easter, All Saints Day (commonly known as Halloween) and Christmas, all of which were "imported" from other cultures. The uniquely American holidays are Independence Day, Martin Luther King Day, Columbus Day, Thanksgiving, Veterans Day, Presidents Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Labor Day and Memorial Day.

I don't know if there is another country with such a unique mixture of "homegrown" and "imported" holidays. Maybe someone who has traveled extensively can answer that.

Anyone who thinks the French have always been weak and ineffectual is wrong. WWI destroyed an entire generation of French men of fighting age, and changed their national outlook toward war. The French once had men who would fight to the death, men like Captain D'Anjou and his Legionnaires. I read a book when I was a kid that told the story of the Battle of Camerone, which preceded the Battle of Puebla. It was an incredible tale of courage, steadfast loyalty, and fighting spirit. The Mexicans didn't beat them, they overwhelmed them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camar%C3%B3n

Capitalism. We celebrate Cinco De Mayo because its a business opportunity to sell more alcohol.

K.Mooneyham wrote:Anyone who thinks the French have always been weak and ineffectual is wrong. WWI destroyed an entire generation of French men of fighting age, and changed their national outlook toward war. The French once had men who would fight to the death, men like Captain D'Anjou and his Legionnaires. I read a book when I was a kid that told the story of the Battle of Camerone, which preceded the Battle of Puebla. It was an incredible tale of courage, steadfast loyalty, and fighting spirit. The Mexicans didn't beat them, they overwhelmed them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camar%C3%B3n

True, but that doesn't make it any less fun to pick on the French. On one of the military blogs I read occasionally is a long essay by a guy in US SF relating his experience with the French military in Afghanistan and he gives them high marks. Their military culture also appears to lack the feminist and PC nonsense that is destroying morale in our military. The jokes are largely still the product of how quickly they folded under the German invasion in WW2. Not entirely fair since the government and country were divided and full of fifth columnist Nazi sympathizers and collaborators that undermined the defense.

VMI77 wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote:Anyone who thinks the French have always been weak and ineffectual is wrong. WWI destroyed an entire generation of French men of fighting age, and changed their national outlook toward war. The French once had men who would fight to the death, men like Captain D'Anjou and his Legionnaires. I read a book when I was a kid that told the story of the Battle of Camerone, which preceded the Battle of Puebla. It was an incredible tale of courage, steadfast loyalty, and fighting spirit. The Mexicans didn't beat them, they overwhelmed them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camar%C3%B3n

True, but that doesn't make it any less fun to pick on the French. On one of the military blogs I read occasionally is a long essay by a guy in US SF relating his experience with the French military in Afghanistan and he gives them high marks. Their military culture also appears to lack the feminist and PC nonsense that is destroying morale in our military. The jokes are largely still the product of how quickly they folded under the German invasion in WW2. Not entirely fair since the government and country were divided and full of fifth columnist Nazi sympathizers and collaborators that undermined the defense.

Even the French like to pick on the French. I like this quote, attributed to Charles de Gaulle:

"How can anyone govern a nation that has two hundred and forty-six different kinds of cheese?"