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Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:26 am
by kwf2006
txinvestigator wrote:kwf2006 wrote:My sister and I paid for a new gun as a fathers day gift for my dad today. My dad is 74 and his record is clean as a pin. (I ran him when I was a dispatcher.)
Isn't that a violation of the system rules?[/quot
We had a sheet with city/state/local/wants. A rap could only be ordered by an officer and your right, it was against the rules. I did not even get to see my own.
Also, neither one of have our CHL, I am about to submit my packet.
Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:53 am
by kw5kw
txinvestigator wrote:kwf2006 wrote:My sister and I paid for a new gun as a fathers day gift for my dad today. My dad is 74 and his record is clean as a pin. (I ran him when I was a dispatcher.)
Isn't that a violation of the system rules?
Yep!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:11 am
by KaProw
I was delayed last Saturday on the Purchase of a S&W Model 60. No big Deal. It was ready for me thursday, but I didn't pick it up until this past Saturday. the gun show was in town and I wanted to see if I could find a better deal, but didn't.
Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:00 pm
by kwf2006
Ok, perhaps my little black text is hard to be seen that I posted before.
Let me clear this up, because it seems to be dragging my post off topic.
I DID NOT run my father through the TLETS/TCIC/NCIC system.
At the department I was at, we had to have a requesting officer to run a rap sheet.
A RAP SHEET was never ran on him or myself.
(Except when the dept hired me, AND I NEVER GOT TO SEE IT.)
They were adimate about that, and stressed that to the point of basicially hang you from the flag pole if you did it without authorization.
Running a plate on someone is worthless, it only shows the owner of the vehicle.
Running a TXDL/TXID only shows if their license is current and valid.
Do I know for an ABSOULOUTE fact that my dad has no record? NO.
However, I do know that he was in the military, a city policeman, a deputy sheriff and a state policeman for years (NM).
So, you guys are right, running that would have been a violation. I only ran him, and myself and everyones name I could think of against the little print outs next to our radio system that shows wants for the surrounding area, and statewide I think? but that has been a while back.
Anyways. Thank you, and sorry for the confusion!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:04 pm
by carlson1
kwf2006 I would not worry either way. If I had a dime for everyone who ran a Criminal History just because. . . I would be rich. As for as 28/29 most of those are just because also. . . unless it was on traffic. It is just like the free dinners - not everyone is always by the book.

My .02
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:08 pm
by SC1903A3
Irving Police Officers routinely run plates (for no violations) as they cruise around the town. They are checking for previous criminal history and if something comes back interesting, they will follow the car until it makes a mistake or otherwise look at it very closely for lights, inspection, etc......anything at all that they can pull the car over for!
Yep it's true. I live in Irving and have gone on ride alongs.
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 3:37 pm
by John
Man this is one tough crowd
Delays are common. I got them every time before getting a CHL, and I have a very unusual name (although i do have a cousin with the same first and last name in Texas).
Wouln't worry about it, just pick up the gun after the BATF Three days (that's four to six days to you and me).
John
Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:53 pm
by Fosforos
govnor wrote:
Did you have any problem getting a CHL being a resident alien? My fiance is in the same situation. She has a green card, so that's why I was wondering.
I'm in the waiting room, so can't tell yet. I've lived in Texas at the same address for 7 years, so they shouldn't have to check overseas history on me. And you'd think that if they wanted to check me out really thoroughly, they'd pick up the phone and call the INS, they know everything there is to know about me and then some.
For me, getting my legally purchased Glock handed to me at the shop was the final thing that convinced me that I really CAN get a CHL.
Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:50 pm
by govnor
Fosforos wrote:govnor wrote:
Did you have any problem getting a CHL being a resident alien? My fiance is in the same situation. She has a green card, so that's why I was wondering.
I'm in the waiting room, so can't tell yet. I've lived in Texas at the same address for 7 years, so they shouldn't have to check overseas history on me. And you'd think that if they wanted to check me out really thoroughly, they'd pick up the phone and call the INS, they know everything there is to know about me and then some.
For me, getting my legally purchased Glock handed to me at the shop was the final thing that convinced me that I really CAN get a CHL.
Actually, a legally purchased Glock can be had by buying one from an individual with no paperwork exchanged. After I bought my 26 a couple of weeks ago, I was walking around the gun show with it and had people immediately asking how much I wanted for it until I got a bag to hide it in. I also noticed some Spanish only speakers hitting up individuals at the Fort Worth gun show. They didn't seem to even be looking at the dealer booths...
Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:45 am
by Liberty
govnor wrote:
Actually, a legally purchased Glock can be had by buying one from an individual with no paperwork exchanged. After I bought my 26 a couple of weeks ago, I was walking around the gun show with it and had people immediately asking how much I wanted for it until I got a bag to hide it in. I also noticed some Spanish only speakers hitting up individuals at the Fort Worth gun show. They didn't seem to even be looking at the dealer booths...
Oh, how I hate to see this.

Re: Purchase Delayed - Please Comment!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:47 am
by rm9792
Fosforos wrote:govnor wrote:
Did you have any problem getting a CHL being a resident alien? My fiance is in the same situation. She has a green card, so that's why I was wondering.
I'm in the waiting room, so can't tell yet. I've lived in Texas at the same address for 7 years, so they shouldn't have to check overseas history on me. And you'd think that if they wanted to check me out really thoroughly, they'd pick up the phone and call the INS, they know everything there is to know about me and then some.
For me, getting my legally purchased Glock handed to me at the shop was the final thing that convinced me that I really CAN get a CHL.
Thats actually irrelevant. i have always been able to legally buy guns and pass a NICS but had to wait 10yrs for DefAdj to pass to get a CHL. I could buy own and carry to range and such but no concealed on person.
Assault and battery
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:12 am
by switch
govnor wrote:Rick-P95 wrote:I am a green card holder, and I had no problems getting my CHL - other than forgetting to sign my fingerprint cards

At my CHL class at Bass Pro...they made sure we signed everything. In fact, I got hit in the head by the instructor for not signing something. I think he might have been a SGT in the army or something. I felt like a private going through that class anyway. I'd recommend it though for good information and hardcore gun people.
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That sounds like assault and battery. Maybe you are a masochist. I'd never go back to a trainer that treated me like a kid.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:52 am
by Mac Truck
This is an Anonymous User posting inconspicuously under the moniker "Mac Truck"....
Best way to do it without delay if you don't have the CHL is to buy it for yourself, in your name, don't mention a word about it being "gifted", then go to the BATF and get a person-to-person transfer slip regarding firearms, and have the giftee sign off on it. Then YOU send it in, to make sure that it gets sent in.
Of course I would never advocate doing that, nor would this "Mac Truck" person...
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:37 am
by KBCraig
Mac Truck wrote: go to the BATF and get a person-to-person transfer slip regarding firearms, and have the giftee sign off on it. Then YOU send it in, to make sure that it gets sent in.
Ummm... what? Care to elaborate on this mysterious "transfer slip", and to whom you'd send it?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:31 pm
by Mac Truck
Firearms Transaction Record, Form 4473. Aquire from the ATF, then return when transaction is complete. What's with the cute little rolling of the eyes? Do you disagree with me?