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Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:30 pm
by Charlies.Contingency
ShootDontTalk wrote:Believe what you want about YouTube. Suffice to say that two facts are abundantly clear:
1) There are probably more Glocks carried daily than any other make. Is it the ultimate be-all, end-all pistol? No. I don't know of any other brand that is either. Handled correctly is it more likely to discharge negligently than any other make? No. There are a huge number of them carried by a lot of people with different levels of expertise. The overwhelming majority have no problem with shooting themselves.
2) Firearms do not discharge by themselves. No firearm is foolproof against negligent discharge. Negligent discharge requires intervention by a negligent human. It makes no difference what gun you own. Believing you have a gun that can never discharge if you do something you shouldn't is a recipe for disaster. Keep your finger off the trigger. Always remember that you have an instrument of death on your hip and pay attention whenever you touch it.
Negligent Discharge requires Negligence. Take away the Negligence, and you take away the discharge. I've holstered and un-holstered a glock to many times to think of a number, and I have never once come close. When handling a firearm, handle it as vigilantly as a snake. Show me a video where a Glock owner is carefully holstering their firearm, and it "discharged" for no reason, and if you find one, I will likely call it a fake.
I know of a lot of "Glocksters," and none have ever had a negligence, accidental, or spontaneous discharge that I know of. That accounts for a lot of people, and a lot of glocks, and a lot of holstering.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:35 am
by C-dub
I was hopping it would be something like this.
There are so many to choose from, I can't decide which one I'd get. Maybe a few and change them out on a semi-regular basis.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:39 pm
by silverbear
jmra wrote:It won't be going on any of my glocks.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:36 pm
by AJSully421
Right2Carry wrote:AJSully421 wrote:Don't wear things that might get into the holster such as jacket waist drawstrings, and pay attention to making sure that cover garments and fingers are out of the way when you reholster.
I just saved everyone $50...
If it were that easy there wouldn't be so many utube videos of glock owners shooting themselves.
Umm... It really is that easy. The problem is that 99% of the aforementioned pistoleros do not obey this insanely simple rule. Reholstering in not a race or a speed drill.
So, tell us... When was your ND?
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:37 pm
by mr1337
If you're worried about pulling the trigger or it getting snagged during re-holstering:
- Don't put your finger inside the trigger guard
- Don't hastily reholster, LOOK at your holster to make sure it's clear. There's no prize for the fastest reholster.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get an Springfield XDs with a grip safety, push the gun into your holster with your thumb on the back of the slide, not engaging the grip safety.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get some professional training.
If you still don't feel confident, I don't know. Carry an exposed hammer-fired gun with a grip safety and manual safety.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:03 pm
by Charlies.Contingency
mr1337 wrote:If you're worried about pulling the trigger or it getting snagged during re-holstering:
- Don't put your finger inside the trigger guard
- Don't hastily reholster, LOOK at your holster to make sure it's clear. There's no prize for the fastest reholster.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get an Springfield XDs with a grip safety, push the gun into your holster with your thumb on the back of the slide, not engaging the grip safety.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get some professional training.
If you still don't feel confident, I don't know. Carry an exposed hammer-fired gun with a grip safety and manual safety.
Well said.
You left out the stage of holstering with an empty chamber. I would never do it, but I hear some people carry without one in the chamber due to fear of accidental discharges. Not my suggestion by any means, but hey, it's not my choice.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:39 am
by mr1337
Charlies.Contingency wrote:mr1337 wrote:If you're worried about pulling the trigger or it getting snagged during re-holstering:
- Don't put your finger inside the trigger guard
- Don't hastily reholster, LOOK at your holster to make sure it's clear. There's no prize for the fastest reholster.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get an Springfield XDs with a grip safety, push the gun into your holster with your thumb on the back of the slide, not engaging the grip safety.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get some professional training.
If you still don't feel confident, I don't know. Carry an exposed hammer-fired gun with a grip safety and manual safety.
Well said.
You left out the stage of holstering with an empty chamber. I would never do it, but I hear some people carry without one in the chamber due to fear of accidental discharges. Not my suggestion by any means, but hey, it's not my choice.
If you don't carry chambered, you might as well not even carry.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:19 am
by TXBO
RoyGBiv wrote: As great as Glocks are, stuffing a gun into an AIWB holster carries "special risks". An AD will likely shoot off your man parts or put a hole in your femoral artery. Thumbing a hammer gives me comfort knowing that my trigger isn't catching on anything while my gun is pointed at sensitive places.
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That special risk isn't limited to Glocks. Hammer or striker..... my gun is never pointed at sensitive places.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:33 am
by jmra
TXBO wrote:RoyGBiv wrote: As great as Glocks are, stuffing a gun into an AIWB holster carries "special risks". An AD will likely shoot off your man parts or put a hole in your femoral artery. Thumbing a hammer gives me comfort knowing that my trigger isn't catching on anything while my gun is pointed at sensitive places.
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That special risk isn't limited to Glocks. Hammer or striker..... my gun is never pointed at sensitive places.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:46 am
by mr1337
TXBO wrote:RoyGBiv wrote: As great as Glocks are, stuffing a gun into an AIWB holster carries "special risks". An AD will likely shoot off your man parts or put a hole in your femoral artery. Thumbing a hammer gives me comfort knowing that my trigger isn't catching on anything while my gun is pointed at sensitive places.
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That special risk isn't limited to Glocks. Hammer or striker..... my gun is never pointed at sensitive places.
The solution is simple: don't have a
negligent discharge. I carry appendix and I put my gun in my holster before I put the holster on so there is no way the trigger can be negligently pulled.
Accidental discharges are impossible with a striker-fired gun because the striker is not pulled all the way back and there are multiple internal safeties. There is no mechanical way the gun will accidentally fire unless the trigger is pulled.
Re: Gadget for Glocks
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:39 am
by Charlies.Contingency
mr1337 wrote:Charlies.Contingency wrote:mr1337 wrote:If you're worried about pulling the trigger or it getting snagged during re-holstering:
- Don't put your finger inside the trigger guard
- Don't hastily reholster, LOOK at your holster to make sure it's clear. There's no prize for the fastest reholster.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get an Springfield XDs with a grip safety, push the gun into your holster with your thumb on the back of the slide, not engaging the grip safety.
If you still don't feel confident in yourself, get some professional training.
If you still don't feel confident, I don't know. Carry an exposed hammer-fired gun with a grip safety and manual safety.
Well said.
You left out the stage of holstering with an empty chamber. I would never do it, but I hear some people carry without one in the chamber due to fear of accidental discharges. Not my suggestion by any means, but hey, it's not my choice.
If you don't carry chambered, you might as well not even carry.
I agree, and I don't believe in it, but there are A HUGE amount of amateur and veteran shooters that I've meet over the years that DO carry without one in the pipe. I don't support it, but their choice is their choice. If they want a 1911 or a S&W Shield, it's their choice. But I must admit that, there are a few people I've meet that were able to draw and rack about as fast as my draw.
Every one of my guns is ready to go. I don't want anybody to Think I am promoting empty chambers though.