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We live in a democracy,

Although both parties seem to have forgotten, I believe we live in a Republic where the elected representatives are supposed to help protect individual rights, as opposed to a Democracy (aka Dictatorship By Majority).

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Delta Airlines bans trophys as freight.

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Delta Airlines bans trophys as freight.

So?

mojo84 wrote:First, I don't know how the US can make girrafe and other trophy hunting illegal on another continent. SNIP

It is my understanding that if there was indeed a violation of US law here it would be the Lacey Act (16 U.S.C. §§ 3371–3378). That is, the taking of the wildlife is not being alleged as unlawful under US law, but rather that bringing Cecil's head or other remains into the US could be a violation of the Lacey Act if the taking was in violation of the law of Zimbabwe. http://www.fws.gov/international/laws-t ... y-act.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This of course is not intended as a comment one way or another on the legality or ethics of the taking itself.

Jim

philip964 wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/08/0 ... s-freight/

Delta Airlines bans trophys as freight.

Now we can all "feel" like something is being done. Not that anything actually IS being done.

b322da wrote:

mojo84 wrote:First, I don't know how the US can make girrafe and other trophy hunting illegal on another continent. SNIP

It is my understanding that if there was indeed a violation of US law here it would be the Lacey Act (16 U.S.C. §§ 3371–3378). That is, the taking of the wildlife is not being alleged as unlawful under US law, but rather that bringing Cecil's head or other remains into the US could be a violation of the Lacey Act if the taking was in violation of the law of Zimbabwe. http://www.fws.gov/international/laws-t ... y-act.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This of course is not intended as a comment one way or another on the legality or ethics of the taking itself.

Jim

Why take my comment out of context to comment on it? The part of the discussion that my comment was in response has nothing to do with your comment or the Lacey Act. The uproar is over the killing of the lion, not the bringing back of it remains.

The comment was made that hunting is not in the Bill of Rights and the US people may make it illegal to hunt lions and other trophies in Africa via a 51% majority. My comment was directed specifically to refute those comments and was in no way regarding the bringing back of Cecil's head or remains.

b322da wrote:

mojo84 wrote:First, I don't know how the US can make girrafe and other trophy hunting illegal on another continent. SNIP

It is my understanding that if there was indeed a violation of US law here it would be the Lacey Act (16 U.S.C. §§ 3371–3378). That is, the taking of the wildlife is not being alleged as unlawful under US law, but rather that bringing Cecil's head or other remains into the US could be a violation of the Lacey Act if the taking was in violation of the law of Zimbabwe. http://www.fws.gov/international/laws-t ... y-act.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This of course is not intended as a comment one way or another on the legality or ethics of the taking itself.

Jim

Why take my comment out of context to comment on it? The part of the discussion that my comment was in response has nothing to do with your comment or the Lacey Act. The uproar is over the killing of the lion, not the bringing back of it remains.

The comment was made that hunting is not in the Bill of Rights and the US people may make it illegal to hunt lions and other trophies in Africa via a 51% majority. My comment was directed specifically to refute those comments and was in no way regarding the bringing back of Cecil's head or remains.

I'll bet you $100 not one of those people is outraged when they chomp down on a McDonald's hamburger. Or, for the hoitee toitee set, a Ruth's Chris filet. This is nothing more than political correctness run amok. The people that gin up these controversies should be rounded up and shipped to an island with no contact with humanity. Let them figure out how to survive without killing anything.

Idiots.

Many of the nuts would say it's not a deer overpopulation problem, it's a human overpopulation problem and that it's the fault of the humans for moving into the animal's territory.

The next "logical" conclusion, eliminate the humans instead.

baldeagle wrote:I'll bet you $100 not one of those people is outraged when they chomp down on a McDonald's hamburger. Or, for the hoitee toitee set, a Ruth's Chris filet. This is nothing more than political correctness run amok. The people that gin up these controversies should be rounded up and shipped to an island with no contact with humanity. Let them figure out how to survive without killing anything.

Idiots.

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Nelson Mandella was a hunter.

Without trophy hunting, lions would be wiped out by the locals. To them lions are vermin who kill their cattle, which is how they measure wealth. Trophy hunters pay a lot of money into the local economy, and give the lions value.