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jmra wrote:If CJ was involved there must be video.

To prove his innocence? It's kinda funny that this is what video has become these days in a country where we should be innocent until proven guilty. The video would certainly apply to resisting arrest, but what authority does the DPS have to demand that an individual or group disperse from the steps of the capital as long as the assembly is peaceful?

The steps of the capital are as much a protected speech zone as flying a flag in your front yard is. Again, I don't approve of OCT tactics, but in *my* view, carrying a plastic (blue) gun in a holster there is very much political speech. I don't think that the same protections should apply at Starbucks, but the steps of the capital should be protected... even if those actions or political views are such that we don't agree with them.

cb1000rider wrote:

jmra wrote:If CJ was involved there must be video.

To prove his innocence? It's kinda funny that this is what video has become these days in a country where we should be innocent until proven guilty. The video would certainly apply to resisting arrest, but what authority does the DPS have to demand that an individual or group disperse from the steps of the capital as long as the assembly is peaceful?

The steps of the capital are as much a protected speech zone as flying a flag in your front yard is. Again, I don't approve of OCT tactics, but in *my* view, carrying a plastic (blue) gun in a holster there is very much political speech. I don't think that the same protections should apply at Starbucks, but the steps of the capital should be protected... even if those actions or political views are such that we don't agree with them.

cb1000rider wrote:

jmra wrote:If CJ was involved there must be video.

To prove his innocence? It's kinda funny that this is what video has become these days in a country where we should be innocent until proven guilty. The video would certainly apply to resisting arrest, but what authority does the DPS have to demand that an individual or group disperse from the steps of the capital as long as the assembly is peaceful?

The steps of the capital are as much a protected speech zone as flying a flag in your front yard is. Again, I don't approve of OCT tactics, but in *my* view, carrying a plastic (blue) gun in a holster there is very much political speech. I don't think that the same protections should apply at Starbucks, but the steps of the capital should be protected... even if those actions or political views are such that we don't agree with them.

I wasn't commenting on guilt or innocence, just that we seem to see a lot of video of CJ - enough video that I would bet there's a video of this event.

I completely agree with that... He's an agitator and without a camera things will probably go "worse" for him than they already have.