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Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:34 pm
by Pawpaw
J.R.@A&M wrote:"If the administration does not heed their concerns, Snodderly added, the group may sue, claiming the law infringes on the members' rights."

What rights are being infringed on by the presence of (a very small number of anonymously carried) concealed handguns?
Their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of not having their panties in a wad. :roll:

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:42 pm
by ELB
J.R.@A&M wrote: ..
What rights are being infringed on ...
You're applying way too much logic to this. This type of thinking (the UT professors' hoplophobia) comes from the same cauldron of mush out of which come "right to not be offended," "safe spaces," trigger warnings," "rape culture," "gender as a social construct" and all the other progressive babbling that is going on at colleges and universities these days. These clowns have no interest in mental toughness or dealing with reality. They want to reform society to enable their own psychological defects.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:46 pm
by jb2012
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:38 pm
by gljjt
They have the data? Since DPS data says that a Texas CHL holder is something like 15x less likely to be arrested than a non-CHL holder, it seems to me that the UT professors are the larger threat to campus safety.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:52 pm
by doncb
CleverNickname wrote:OC on the campus of a higher educational institution will remain illegal, even after 9/1/16 (or 9/1/17 for junior colleges).
You are correct. Thank you. Spoiled my fun though. :biggrinjester:

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:24 pm
by Redneck_Buddha
Lots of sandy nethers in academia these days.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:32 pm
by LSUTiger
I'm hoping an early lawsuit would benefit the cause of campus carry because it would force someone to clarify any legal issues and/or force them to be addressed in future legislature. One way or the other I think we will see good or bad legal precedence set sooner than later.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:33 pm
by JALLEN
VMI77 wrote:
Having a son who is a recent graduate let me say: the UT you graduated from no longer exists. Oh, there may be some critical thinking going on in a few departments.....but the people who are the problem generally aren't part of those departments. Some of the classes my son had to endure were horrific assaults on the intelligence of anyone with functioning brain cells. No critical thinking was in evidence in most of the liberal arts classrooms. This btw, did not end at UT. He graduated from one of the country's top law schools this year and he didn't see much critical thinking among the students there either. 99% of them simply parrot the progressive mantras. Today's college students and graduates, and of course their professors, may well be the biggest existential threat to the Republic that has ever existed.
What "critical thinking" was he missing? What is "critical thinking?"

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:39 pm
by JALLEN
Maybe these critical thinkers ought to think about the recent decision in "Lucky Gunner."

It helped that that suit flew in the face of a specific statute insulating the defendants from liability, but the "rights" they claim are not exactly recognized as ones the violation of which affords a remedy.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:58 pm
by dlh
jb2012 wrote:
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:
A football team that makes A LOT of $$$ for the University of Texas. I think that is why the Mizzou administrators resigned--had little to do with perceived racial insensitivity and a whole lot to do with the forfeit of a million bucks if the football team refused to play BYU this weekend.

dlh

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:06 pm
by Jago668
dlh wrote:
jb2012 wrote:
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:
A football team that makes A LOT of $$$ for the University of Texas. I think that is why the Mizzou administrators resigned--had little to do with perceived racial insensitivity and a whole lot to do with the forfeit of a million bucks if the football team refused to play BYU this weekend.

dlh
Personally they should have bit the bullet, and just kicked them off the team. Revoke any scholarships they had. They are getting paid to play, they don't want to play they don't get paid.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:31 pm
by JALLEN
dlh wrote:
jb2012 wrote:
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:
A football team that makes A LOT of $$$ for the University of Texas. I think that is why the Mizzou administrators resigned--had little to do with perceived racial insensitivity and a whole lot to do with the forfeit of a million bucks if the football team refused to play BYU this weekend.

dlh
The economics of big time college football make missing a game, letting the players go, a very courageous decision. There are so many entanglements, it isn't just the $1 million.

UT has one of the most valuable "brands" in sports, tremendous investment in facilities, marketing, suppliers, fan base, etc.

When they say "it isn't the money," it's the money!

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:01 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
Jago668 wrote:
dlh wrote:
jb2012 wrote:
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:
A football team that makes A LOT of $$$ for the University of Texas. I think that is why the Mizzou administrators resigned--had little to do with perceived racial insensitivity and a whole lot to do with the forfeit of a million bucks if the football team refused to play BYU this weekend.

dlh
Personally they should have bit the bullet, and just kicked them off the team. Revoke any scholarships they had. They are getting paid to play, they don't want to play they don't get paid.
I agree. It may have cost a lot of money to miss a game, but giving in to this extortion will cost much more in the future.

Chas.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:01 pm
by Bladed
According to SCC, this is the mission statement/legal strategy released by Gun Free UT: http://tinyurl.com/oxdmyo5

EXCERPT:
We will most likely never be shot in our offices or classrooms, even if we were to piss off some white male students with sacrilegious ideas about race, empire, evolution, or god. This is a struggle over the meaning of education, the classroom, and open society. This is a struggle over the meaning of trust and community...America has all along been about the sheer display of white male power (with guns): over Indians, over slaves, over females, over Mexicans, over Asians, over African Americans, and over Arabs, now [sic] The return of the vigilante movement is a giant, collective white push back against the Civil Rights Movement and against the unintended consequences of globalization, migration, and demography...This is a battle over our individual right to determine the nature of the community of trust within our classroom, well established by constitutional law. This right has now been challenged, assaulted by a toxic ideology of white racism and libertarianism.

Re: University of Texas professors: Ban guns or we could sue

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:04 pm
by jb2012
dlh wrote:
jb2012 wrote:
dlh wrote:
Note the "learned" history professor "and others" per the article suggest that campus athletes get involved...They are hoping to hit U.T. in the "big money" through the football program.
Hahaha what football team? :biggrinjester:
A football team that makes A LOT of $$$ for the University of Texas. I think that is why the Mizzou administrators resigned--had little to do with perceived racial insensitivity and a whole lot to do with the forfeit of a million bucks if the football team refused to play BYU this weekend.

dlh
Haha I was just referencing to this season! And maybe last year too... Yes they are an extremely valuable business for the school