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Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:23 pm
by Skiprr
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:They are probably going by the IP range of the server/host that sent the email - now that can be spoofed but if it was a Kid hoping to get out of Finals - probably not spoofed.
This. It is possible to track IP with email.
It's pretty clear that they think the threat is credible enough to take what is evidently unprecedented action. There was a threat earlier in the day to the New York schools, but no action was taken; and the L.A. reps said that they receive threats "frequently." So it's a fair guess that this wasn't a kid's hoax.

Anonymizer proxy servers and throwaway email accounts are free, easy to use, and take only a minute to setup. That's why I scratched my head. If the threat came from a potential, credible, terror source, I wouldn't expect it to have an auditable point-of-origin that could be identified quickly.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:31 pm
by anygunanywhere
Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:They are probably going by the IP range of the server/host that sent the email - now that can be spoofed but if it was a Kid hoping to get out of Finals - probably not spoofed.
This. It is possible to track IP with email.
It's pretty clear that they think the threat is credible enough to take what is evidently unprecedented action. There was a threat earlier in the day to the New York schools, but no action was taken; and the L.A. reps said that they receive threats "frequently." So it's a fair guess that this wasn't a kid's hoax.

Anonymizer proxy servers and throwaway email accounts are free, easy to use, and take only a minute to setup. That's why I scratched my head. If the threat came from a potential, credible, terror source, I wouldn't expect it to have an auditable point-of-origin that could be identified quickly.
Well, barry told us ISIS was the JV team so you just never know what mistakes the second string is going to make.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:39 pm
by VMI77
New York City officials say they received the same threat that led to the closure of the Los Angeles school system but quickly concluded that it was a hoax.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said Tuesday morning that he was 'absolutely convinced' there was no danger to schoolchildren in New York.

New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said he thought Los Angeles officials overreacted by deciding to close the nation's second-largest school system.

He said a school superintendent received the threatening email Tuesday morning.

Bratton said the person who wrote the note claimed to be a jihadist but made errors that made it clear the person was a prankster.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hreat.html

The libs in NYC aren't just smarter than us rubes in flyover country, they're smarter than the libs on the left coast too. "rlol"

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:53 pm
by striker55
Fox News, Varney quick to say it benefits Trump and the republicans. They can't stay away from politics.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:48 pm
by mojo84
anygunanywhere wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:They are probably going by the IP range of the server/host that sent the email - now that can be spoofed but if it was a Kid hoping to get out of Finals - probably not spoofed.
This. It is possible to track IP with email.
It's pretty clear that they think the threat is credible enough to take what is evidently unprecedented action. There was a threat earlier in the day to the New York schools, but no action was taken; and the L.A. reps said that they receive threats "frequently." So it's a fair guess that this wasn't a kid's hoax.

Anonymizer proxy servers and throwaway email accounts are free, easy to use, and take only a minute to setup. That's why I scratched my head. If the threat came from a potential, credible, terror source, I wouldn't expect it to have an auditable point-of-origin that could be identified quickly.
Well, barry told us ISIS was the JV team so you just never know what mistakes the second string is going to make.

Don't forget "contained", "on the run" and "being decimated". ;-)

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:56 pm
by The Annoyed Man
mojo84 wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:They are probably going by the IP range of the server/host that sent the email - now that can be spoofed but if it was a Kid hoping to get out of Finals - probably not spoofed.
This. It is possible to track IP with email.
It's pretty clear that they think the threat is credible enough to take what is evidently unprecedented action. There was a threat earlier in the day to the New York schools, but no action was taken; and the L.A. reps said that they receive threats "frequently." So it's a fair guess that this wasn't a kid's hoax.

Anonymizer proxy servers and throwaway email accounts are free, easy to use, and take only a minute to setup. That's why I scratched my head. If the threat came from a potential, credible, terror source, I wouldn't expect it to have an auditable point-of-origin that could be identified quickly.
Well, barry told us ISIS was the JV team so you just never know what mistakes the second string is going to make.
Don't forget "contained", "on the run" and "being dessimated". ;-)
Wait....... "Desiccated" (dried out), or "decimated" (9 in 10 still standing)? "rlol"

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:02 pm
by mojo84
The Annoyed Man wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:They are probably going by the IP range of the server/host that sent the email - now that can be spoofed but if it was a Kid hoping to get out of Finals - probably not spoofed.
This. It is possible to track IP with email.
It's pretty clear that they think the threat is credible enough to take what is evidently unprecedented action. There was a threat earlier in the day to the New York schools, but no action was taken; and the L.A. reps said that they receive threats "frequently." So it's a fair guess that this wasn't a kid's hoax.

Anonymizer proxy servers and throwaway email accounts are free, easy to use, and take only a minute to setup. That's why I scratched my head. If the threat came from a potential, credible, terror source, I wouldn't expect it to have an auditable point-of-origin that could be identified quickly.
Well, barry told us ISIS was the JV team so you just never know what mistakes the second string is going to make.
Don't forget "contained", "on the run" and "being dessimated". ;-)
Wait....... "Desiccated" (dried out), or "decimated" (9 in 10 still standing)? "rlol"
Autocorrect changes the right words to the wrong words then ignores my mispellings. Go figure. :oops:

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:21 pm
by RoyGBiv
Richbirdhunter wrote:640,000 kids told to stay home. There are many more school districts in Los Angeles county that are not effected.
Would like to see crime stats for the next 24 hours... Spike?

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:30 pm
by NotRPB
https://twitter.com/_PatJohnson_/status ... 8768692224
Nerd
‏@NimbusThree

@LASchools How can you ask parents to show ID to pick up their children when so many are undocumented immigrants without any ID? #LAUSD
Thy only lose ID if voting?
LAUSD requiring parents to show ID to pick up their kids .... RACISTS !!!
Apparently photo ID gets lost around Voting days, but is readily available to pick up kids.

VoterID

NY didn't think the impoverished would have ID, so they stayed in school

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:07 pm
by The Annoyed Man
The source of the threat has been identified:
https://youtu.be/-gZ6-6RbSEg

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:25 pm
by misterlarry
... and that's how terror works.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:37 pm
by Richbirdhunter
RoyGBiv wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:640,000 kids told to stay home. There are many more school districts in Los Angeles county that are not effected.
Would like to see crime stats for the next 24 hours... Spike?

That will be interesting to see

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:21 pm
by Charles L. Cotton
If all it takes to cripple a school district with over 600,000 kids is an email or phone call, then terrorists can win without firing a shot.

Chas.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 5:06 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Charles L. Cotton wrote:If all it takes to cripple a school district with over 600,000 kids is an email or phone call, then terrorists can win without firing a shot.

Chas.
Yep.

Re: Breaking: Entire Los Angeles school system shut down due to threat.....

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 6:26 pm
by Skiprr
Charles L. Cotton wrote:If all it takes to cripple a school district with over 600,000 kids is an email or phone call, then terrorists can win without firing a shot.

Chas.
This. And that's exactly what was achieved today.

Turns out that the emails sent to the NY and LA school districts were similar, and both routed through the same IP address in Germany. (LA Police Chief Charlie Beck has recanted earlier statements that the email's origination was Frankfurt, saying that it apparently routed through Germany but may have originated elsewhere, even Los Angeles.) FBI sources told Fox News that both they and the LAPD had deemed the threat "non-credible"; an opinion overridden by the Los Angeles Unified School District.

So not only did Ramon Cortines's action this morning unnerve well over a million parents and students, cause chaos and an unimaginable cost--in lost time and productivity with parents trying to arrange getting their children back home and supervised as needed, and with LEO mobilization--but it also set the stage for two possible scenarios in the upcoming days. The first is copycats thinking what a hoot it would be cause the shutdown of a large school district (or hospital or government building) and have the action dominate the news channels for hours. If the individual responsible isn't apprehended and jailed quickly, I fear we'll see more institutional soft-targets become similarly hoaxed the next few weeks.

The second is more frightening: a "cry wolf" phenomenon. The LA school district made a mistake writ large because of the scale and, as details about the full impact of the decision come out, they are probably going to face more public criticism...and not just from New York. Will they have raised the effective threshold for "threat level" before expansive, preventative action is taken in the future? If the next, or third, or tenth threat really is credible, will the next person-in-charge be afraid to pull a "Ramon Cortines" and overreact?

Whether today's "threat" was the work of some juvenile with a keyboard (most likely, I think) or not, ISIS must be loving LA's response. The second largest city in the country suffered a significant disruption, and ISIS didn't even have to lift a finger.