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I've been here less than a WEEK, and Bloomberg's gun haters are quoting ME?? Unbelievable. Taken out of context to boot.

baldeagle wrote:Oldgringo, you need to disable your duplex machine.

I don't know what's causing that?

I feel cheap and used... and I didn't even get quoted!!!

Lynyrd wrote:I've been here less than a WEEK, and Bloomberg's gun haters are quoting ME?? Unbelievable. Taken out of context to boot.

That's their regular practice. There are several ways they lie including intentional false statements of fact, lie by omission, misquoting and taking grossly out of context are just a few.

Chas.

Woohoo! They didn't quote me. Maybe I'm still anonymous.

If they're so interested in reporting non-bias facts despite their funding source (http://www.thetrace.org/about-the-trace/) you think maybe they'll report these statistics? Nah. Texas CHL conviction rates relative to the general population
https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/r ... vrates.htm
https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/R ... rt2013.pdf

The irony is, the gun control advocates would like all gun owners to be thoroughly vetted in order to own guns...Well, all use Texas CHL/LTC holders were thoroughly vetted and these control advocates still aren't satisfied. Those signs, legally, only apply to us. All other Texans carrying (with the exception of LEOs) are breaking the law as soon as they step out of their car or off their property.

hovercat wrote:That perverted voyeur!

That, right there, is one of the points folks should take. Nothing wrong with calling the writer a "voyeur", because it's true... at least in the digital age definition. One who lurks, watches, etc.

But to call the writer "perverted" is not something most good-mannered folks should think of doing. You don't know the author of the story - you don't even know if the author of the story is the one who's collecting the remarks from the forum... heck, it could be anyone (even you, hovercat) who is feeding the writer the material.

So keep a civil tongue in check, and don't be calling anyone names, please! It doesn't do us any favors.

Did anyone here honestly not expect that certain forum segments are being monitored and sifted?

After all, there are several people here who have been, and still are, deeply entrenched in the 2A movement.

Don't take the bait guys. Follow the bouncing ball. These are classic divide and conquer methods, that have been used for centuries. Nothing new under the sun.

If you tell everyone everything you know, they'll be just as smart as you.

CC, OC or both, carry wherever you are legally allowed to. Be respectful and polite, but first and foremost, stay alert.

jason812 wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Folks, please at the positive side, we are very influential group. Our words and efforts to support 2ndA rights have a lot of power. As we won the OC battle and all previous gun rights battles, we will reign supreme over the antis. Is it tough to do charity work to promote 2ndA rights? Is it tough to visit local business chambers and promote our LTC community as the safest community out there?

We should not expect everything to sail smoothly, do we? BTW, where are the coverage of media of flurry of OCers? I saw none so far.

Maybe due to the lack of blood running in the streets and very few people actually OC'ing, the "other" side needs to create drama for us.

As one of the probably few who has OCed on several occasions since Jan. 1, I can say that I was pleasantly surprised to the uneventful non reaction.

justa2e2 wrote:I see it as more of an educational issue. I am going out on a limb when I say this but I would imagine that for the majority of business' that are putting up signs don't fully understand the law. I ask myself do these business' really understand what they are doing when they are prohibiting us from carrying in their establishments. If criminals won't follow the law, then what makes them think that they will abide by their signs??? I have yet to come across any signs that prohibit both cc/oc and if I do I will kindly inform the manager/owner of that establishment to that same question.

What is especially frustrating is that I know LTCers who operate a small grocery business who are posting 30.07 signs. They erroneously thought that it would legally keep out OCers of long guns. I had to educate them that it only affects people like him, LTC and handguns and the potential negative ramifications of creating gun free zones by posting any kinds signage. You would think these people would get it, but they did not. They never any problems with people OCing long guns before and it just goes to prove how uneducated they really are.

Not only are they confused and ignorant of the law but I can recall the same guy complaining about his company posting 30.06 at the time and how they should be responsible if something were to happened because they took away his right to defend himself.

So yes, ignorance and hypocrisy is rampant.

parabelum wrote:Did anyone here honestly not expect that certain forum segments are being monitored and sifted?

After all, there are several people here who have been, and still are, deeply entrenched in the 2A movement.

Don't take the bait guys. Follow the bouncing ball. These are classic divide and conquer methods, that have been used for centuries. Nothing new under the sun.

If you tell everyone everything you know, they'll be just as smart as you.

CC, OC or both, carry wherever you are legally allowed to. Be respectful and polite, but first and foremost, stay alert.

You are on quite a roll of admonishing and scolding others.

mojo84 wrote:

parabelum wrote:Did anyone here honestly not expect that certain forum segments are being monitored and sifted?

After all, there are several people here who have been, and still are, deeply entrenched in the 2A movement.

Don't take the bait guys. Follow the bouncing ball. These are classic divide and conquer methods, that have been used for centuries. Nothing new under the sun.

If you tell everyone everything you know, they'll be just as smart as you.

CC, OC or both, carry wherever you are legally allowed to. Be respectful and polite, but first and foremost, stay alert.

You are on quite a roll of admonishing and scolding others.

Listen buster, you are not going to brow beat me. I have not used that tone.

Chill.

parabelum wrote:

mojo84 wrote:

parabelum wrote:Did anyone here honestly not expect that certain forum segments are being monitored and sifted?

After all, there are several people here who have been, and still are, deeply entrenched in the 2A movement.

Don't take the bait guys. Follow the bouncing ball. These are classic divide and conquer methods, that have been used for centuries. Nothing new under the sun.

If you tell everyone everything you know, they'll be just as smart as you.

CC, OC or both, carry wherever you are legally allowed to. Be respectful and polite, but first and foremost, stay alert.

You are on quite a roll of admonishing and scolding others.

Listen buster, you are not going to brow beat me. I have not used that tone.

Chill.

I haven't brow beaten anyone. I just noticed you are bouncing around correcting everyone as if you have all the answers and final word. You aren't the first newby to do that.

parabelum wrote:Did anyone here honestly not expect that certain forum segments are being monitored and sifted?

After all, there are several people here who have been, and still are, deeply entrenched in the 2A movement.

Don't take the bait guys. Follow the bouncing ball. These are classic divide and conquer methods, that have been used for centuries. Nothing new under the sun.

If you tell everyone everything you know, they'll be just as smart as you.

CC, OC or both, carry wherever you are legally allowed to. Be respectful and polite, but first and foremost, stay alert.

Your post isn't anything new. We've know it for years.

Chas.

n5wd wrote:

hovercat wrote:That perverted voyeur!

... keep a civil tongue in check, and don't be calling anyone names, please! It doesn't do us any favors.

I think, technically, he had a civil tongue in cheek.

What is especially frustrating is that I know LTCers who operate a small grocery business who are posting 30.07 signs. They erroneously thought that it would legally keep out OCers of long guns.

How we need another Reagan. I can hear the words resounding now, "Mr. Grocer, tear down this sign!"