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Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:34 pm
by zimmerdesignz
Maybe I didn't read correctly but it seems to me 99% of all guns on the market are included in this. Handguns with mags over 10 rounds also.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:50 pm
by Surgeon
Usually, these types of bill are used as fund raiser center pieces during election years. In other words, any gun manufacturers, retailers of ammunition and the like start to pay these paracites off, being as they're in protected districts, to drop their efforts. I've seen it with alcohol legislation. Introduce a bill to raise the drinking age only to be paid off by the distributors to drop the legislation.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:37 am
by Bitter Clinger
These Georgia Dem are traitors given the documented rise in terror plots nationwide under the current White House:


http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63612136

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:23 am
by VMI77
koine2002 wrote:
(B) Any bullet that can be fired from a pistol or revolver that:
(i) Has projectiles or projectile cores constructed entirely from tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium;
(ii) Is fully jacketed with a jacket weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile, is larger than .22 caliber, and is designed and intended for use in a firearm; or
(iii) Does not have projectiles whose cores are composed of soft materials, including, but not limited to, soft materials such as lead, lead alloys, zinc, or zinc alloys, frangible projectiles designed primarily for sporting purposes, or any other projectiles or projectile cores that the Attorney General of the United States finds to be primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes or industrial purposes or that otherwise do not constitute armor-piercing ammunition as defined by federal law;
That whole thing was painful to read. It looks like they want to turn Georgia into New Jersey. Also, if I'm right about my understanding of what's in them, it also bans the bi-metal cheap ppu and Tul ammunition.
I want me some depleted uranium bullets...but Academy and Walmart were all out last time I checked. "rlol"

Isn't it sporting to shoot home invaders in Georgia, or is it the home invaders whose purpose is "sporting?"

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:25 am
by VMI77
Bitter Clinger wrote:These Georgia Dem are traitors given the documented rise in terror plots nationwide under the current White House:


http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63612136

Nah, they'd be traitors even if no one had ever heard of a terrorist.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:01 am
by Bitter Clinger
VMI77 wrote:
Bitter Clinger wrote:These Georgia Dem are traitors given the documented rise in terror plots nationwide under the current White House:


http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63612136

Nah, they'd be traitors even if no one had ever heard of a terrorist.
:iagree: Thx. Good point!

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:06 am
by JALLEN
Iunnrais wrote:Link to the actual bill: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en- ... 016/HB/731

Painful read - no grandfathering and no compensation for weapons surrendered. :banghead: Wonder if the author(s) read the 5th amendment at all...
Do you think the government pays you when they seize your stash of smack, crack or other illegal to possess items?

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:12 pm
by VMI77
JALLEN wrote:
Iunnrais wrote:Link to the actual bill: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en- ... 016/HB/731

Painful read - no grandfathering and no compensation for weapons surrendered. :banghead: Wonder if the author(s) read the 5th amendment at all...
Do you think the government pays you when they seize your stash of smack, crack or other illegal to possess items?
I understand the rationale as I've heard it from the left before, but isn't there an ex-post facto consideration in making a crime out of what was previously legal and then seizing property on that basis? If not it seems a neat end run around the Constitution. Why even have an imminent domain proceeding....why not just make ownership of a desired property illegal and seize it as contraband? And by the same logic wouldn't the State also be able to seize your home, vehicles, and other property, including cash, where those now illegal guns are being kept?

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:27 pm
by JALLEN
VMI77 wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
Iunnrais wrote:Link to the actual bill: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en- ... 016/HB/731

Painful read - no grandfathering and no compensation for weapons surrendered. :banghead: Wonder if the author(s) read the 5th amendment at all...
Do you think the government pays you when they seize your stash of smack, crack or other illegal to possess items?
I understand the rationale as I've heard it from the left before, but isn't there an ex-post facto consideration in making a crime out of what was previously legal and then seizing property on that basis? If not it seems a neat end run around the Constitution. Why even have an imminent domain proceeding....why not just make ownership of a desired property illegal and seize it as contraband? And by the same logic wouldn't the State also be able to seize your home, vehicles, and other property, including cash, where those now illegal guns are being kept?
I suppose I think of imminent domain in terms of real property only, since that is what I dealt with, and have never heard of the government taking personal property in that fashion.

I suppose it could happen that the government could declare diesel powered 4 wheeled vehicles illegal and seize them. The political backlash might be overwhelming. That is really the only ultimate limitation, and as we have seen with same sex marriage, even voter disapproval isn't failsafe.

Voters need to oust the officials who support whatever it is they are unhappy with, and they will get rid of the judges who go along with it. Short of that, words, concepts and meanings, can be awfully flexible.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:34 pm
by SA_Steve
Georgia is changing (demographically) more rapidly that any other state. Will be a blue state in 10 years or less.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:36 pm
by VMI77
JALLEN wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
JALLEN wrote:
Iunnrais wrote:Link to the actual bill: http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/en- ... 016/HB/731

Painful read - no grandfathering and no compensation for weapons surrendered. :banghead: Wonder if the author(s) read the 5th amendment at all...
Do you think the government pays you when they seize your stash of smack, crack or other illegal to possess items?
I understand the rationale as I've heard it from the left before, but isn't there an ex-post facto consideration in making a crime out of what was previously legal and then seizing property on that basis? If not it seems a neat end run around the Constitution. Why even have an imminent domain proceeding....why not just make ownership of a desired property illegal and seize it as contraband? And by the same logic wouldn't the State also be able to seize your home, vehicles, and other property, including cash, where those now illegal guns are being kept?
I suppose I think of imminent domain in terms of real property only, since that is what I dealt with, and have never heard of the government taking personal property in that fashion.
Your truck example is better but I was thinking of real property when I wrote my response. I was specifically thinking of the case in New London CT where the city seized property to give it to a developer based on an expectation of greater tax revenue. It's more of a reach than your truck example but as you say, concepts can be twisted into just about anything.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:37 pm
by VMI77
SA_Steve wrote:Georgia is changing (demographically) more rapidly that any other state. Will be a blue state in 10 years or less.
The Feds are also seeding states like Georgia with immigrants, legal and illegal, to hasten that demographic shift.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:44 pm
by mojo84
Seems like political suicide to me unless they have jerrymandered districts as bad as ours.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:07 pm
by K.Mooneyham
If what JALLEN says is true, then what is the point of following any law if you don't have any protections under the law? Or is that the point, as Ayn Rand said in "Atlas Shrugged", to turn everyone into criminals so as to gain more power over the people? Something better change for the better soon in this nation or we are doomed, and civilization as we understand it is too.

Re: Democrats in Georgia Introduce Bill to Confiscate Assault Weapons

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:12 pm
by Oldgringo
I remember when Atlanta was a nice southern city. {sigh}