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ELB wrote:There are other similar products out there. Our fire department has talked about getting some, but we kind of let it drift...may have to rekindle (heh) that conversation. Looks pretty good for a small, relatively contained fire. I wonder how big a room/fire one of two of these could handle..hmmm.

I sent the video to a couple of people who I worked with at a previous company.
Having a couple of these would have saved them a LOT of money.

Scott B. wrote:Old idea reborn, and probably safer than the turn-of-the-century Glass Fire Grenades.

I have one of those hanging in my office right now. Hope to never be around if it should be deployed.

Definitely innovative! I'd love to have 3 or 4 but.....ouch!

You can order them from Amazon for the amazingly low price of $229.00 ea. They ship from Israel.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all

these actually aren't a new idea, just revived from the 1930's I have one of the old ones, they are glass balls and are now illegal to use but are collectors items and yep right in gold lettering it has "fire bomb" on it. they contain a chemical solution that is now considered a hazardous material, don't remember what it is though. Carbon Tetrachloride, bad juju there

Yeah, my worry is in the US this would somehow get turned into a "destructive device". Can't you just see the ads "Only $79.99 +$200 tax stamp and 6 month waiting period" :-)

Isn't this about like Red Adair's technique for fighting oil well fires using dynamite to deprive the fire of oxygen?

JALLEN wrote:Isn't this about like Red Adair's technique for fighting oil well fires using dynamite to deprive the fire of oxygen?

Aside from the difference in scale (!), no I don't think so. In the oil well fires, the explosive literally blows out the flame with a shockwave, depriving the flame of oxygen and fuel. That little ball is not generating any kind of shockwave (else that guy holding it as it went off wouldn't have fingers afterwards), it just saturating the immediate area with some kind of dry chemical.

joe817 wrote:Definitely innovative! I'd love to have 3 or 4 but.....ouch!

You can order them from Amazon for the amazingly low price of $229.00 ea. They ship from Israel.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all

YIkes. I went to the link hoping that was the price for a case, but doesn't look like it.

ELB wrote:

joe817 wrote:Definitely innovative! I'd love to have 3 or 4 but.....ouch!

You can order them from Amazon for the amazingly low price of $229.00 ea. They ship from Israel.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all

YIkes. I went to the link hoping that was the price for a case, but doesn't look like it.

Maybe there price is in Shekels rather than dollars?

ELB wrote:

JALLEN wrote:Isn't this about like Red Adair's technique for fighting oil well fires using dynamite to deprive the fire of oxygen?

Aside from the difference in scale (!), no I don't think so. In the oil well fires, the explosive literally blows out the flame with a shockwave, depriving the flame of oxygen and fuel. That little ball is not generating any kind of shockwave (else that guy holding it as it went off wouldn't have fingers afterwards), it just saturating the immediate area with some kind of dry chemical.

I think the reaction releases carbon dioxide gas which cuts off the oxygen and stops the fire.

WildBill wrote:

ELB wrote:

joe817 wrote:Definitely innovative! I'd love to have 3 or 4 but.....ouch!

You can order them from Amazon for the amazingly low price of $229.00 ea. They ship from Israel.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/ ... dition=all

YIkes. I went to the link hoping that was the price for a case, but doesn't look like it.

Maybe there price is in Shekels rather than dollars?

That would help, make it "only" $60, but I'm not going to order one just to find out.

Just googled around, and Chinese knock-offs are $10 apiece. hmmm.

WildBill wrote:

ELB wrote:

JALLEN wrote:Isn't this about like Red Adair's technique for fighting oil well fires using dynamite to deprive the fire of oxygen?

Aside from the difference in scale (!), no I don't think so. In the oil well fires, the explosive literally blows out the flame with a shockwave, depriving the flame of oxygen and fuel. That little ball is not generating any kind of shockwave (else that guy holding it as it went off wouldn't have fingers afterwards), it just saturating the immediate area with some kind of dry chemical.

I think the reaction releases carbon dioxide gas which cuts off the oxygen and stops the fire.

Well, I didn't think it might be literally identical. Deprive of oxygen is the gist of it, because the fire is out immediately. Same cause, different means of getting it.

JALLEN wrote:

WildBill wrote:

ELB wrote:

JALLEN wrote:Isn't this about like Red Adair's technique for fighting oil well fires using dynamite to deprive the fire of oxygen?

Aside from the difference in scale (!), no I don't think so. In the oil well fires, the explosive literally blows out the flame with a shockwave, depriving the flame of oxygen and fuel. That little ball is not generating any kind of shockwave (else that guy holding it as it went off wouldn't have fingers afterwards), it just saturating the immediate area with some kind of dry chemical.

I think the reaction releases carbon dioxide gas which cuts off the oxygen and stops the fire.

Well, I didn't think it might be literally identical. Deprive of oxygen is the gist of it, because the fire is out immediately. Same cause, different means of getting it.

Using Adair's technique for a house or car fire, the end doesn't justify the means.