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The obvious issue with any of these 30.06 posted places is the same to me. They claim the courthouse is well protected with armed security and it probably is. The movie theater I used to go to has a deputy on duty inside the building. The article in the Waco paper pointed out that it was not necessary for a citizen to be armed in the courthouse with all the security present.

I don't have a problem being unarmed in a location that provides security near as much as I do with walking from my vehicle to the location and back. That is the big issue. If they are willing to provide a personal, armed escort for me to my car, I might have more compassion for their concerns.

NTexCopRetired wrote:The obvious issue with any of these 30.06 posted places is the same to me. They claim the courthouse is well protected with armed security and it probably is. The movie theater I used to go to has a deputy on duty inside the building. The article in the Waco paper pointed out that it was not necessary for a citizen to be armed in the courthouse with all the security present.

I don't have a problem being unarmed in a location that provides security near as much as I do with walking from my vehicle to the location and back. That is the big issue. If they are willing to provide a personal, armed escort for me to my car, I might have more compassion for their concerns.

They claim that even though SCOTUS has ruled that the police are not required to protect an individual.

OCT posted a video on their site at a commissioner's court meeting where they pretty much did nothing about it. It looks like the ball is back in the AG's court now.

This could get interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/OpenCarryTexas ... 854148901/

treadlightly wrote:
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I had a nice conversation with an investigator with our Sheriff's Department Monday night. He's pro-gun, isn't the slightest bit ruffled that citizens are carrying guns, but he's skittish about guns in the courthouse.

He said I should come to the courthouse on a day when they are hearing divorce cases and see how angry parents get when they are told they can't have their kids any more.
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I hear these arguments about prohibiting guns in court houses because of what happens inside court rooms. These are straw man arguments in my mind. None of the arguments for allowing guns in court houses suggest that guns should be allowed in court rooms, where they are prohibited by statute.

County to fight state on courthouse gun ban

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and ... l?mode=jqm

Alternative headline: County to waste taxpayer money

dhoobler wrote:County to fight state on courthouse gun ban

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and ... l?mode=jqm

Alternative headline: County to waste taxpayer money

I hope that they get their tail ends handed to them, and possibly held in contempt to add a little insult to injury. the law is quite clear to me, buildings OR portions of buildings. that statement to me indicates the legislature mean that multi use buildings are to be controlled at the court and offices expressly used by the court for court functions ONLY not the hallways latrines any other offices(tax office county clerk admin the list goes on) and non waiting areas in the same building. too many cities are saying city hall is off limits because they hold a kangaroo court there once a month. PAH! they are being typical anti gun liberal (insert favorite derogatory term)

Interesting. CJ Grisham was quoted by the Waco Tribune as saying he's a "badged and credentialed special agent."

I wonder what agency - anybody know?

treadlightly wrote:Interesting. CJ Grisham was quoted by the Waco Tribune as saying he's a "badged and credentialed special agent."

I wonder what agency - anybody know?

Space Cadets ?

treadlightly wrote:In other words, he's a good guy, pro 2nd Amendment, pro citizen carry, but it's hard for him to get out of his head what people will do when courts decide against them.

I sympathize. I still have rights in need of further expansion, but I sympathize. It's not a perfect world.

This is one of the biggest problems as I see it. It's not a perfect world, but some would like to try and make it that way at all costs. This investigator would like to make the courthouse a perfectly safe place not recognizing that if that violence is going to happen it will only happen somewhere else and that is okay with him for some reason.

Pariah3j wrote:

treadlightly wrote:Interesting. CJ Grisham was quoted by the Waco Tribune as saying he's a "badged and credentialed special agent."

I wonder what agency - anybody know?

Space Cadets ?

I believe that he claims LEOSA rights. Apparently he worked on a counter terrorism task force and had police credentials, badge/id.
I'm not a supporter, just answering a question.

treadlightly wrote:Interesting. CJ Grisham was quoted by the Waco Tribune as saying he's a "badged and credentialed special agent."

I wonder what agency - anybody know?

Oh, he's special all right.

Update

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/mclennan_c ... 484d6.html

The county will move non-court offices out of the annex so only court offices remain, and the signs stay up. The AG has agreed.

Moving all non-essential offices out of the building sounds pretty reasonable.

oohrah wrote:Update

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/mclennan_c ... 484d6.html

The county will move non-court offices out of the annex so only court offices remain, and the signs stay up. The AG has agreed.

If they move every non-essential court office out of the building, then that seems to be reasonable. But why are the signs staying up in the mean time? How long will this transition take? And how are LTC holders supposed to know when they can no longer legally carry in the building?

The signs should come down and remain down until the office move is complete, IMHO. And fines still need to be assessed for every day that the signs were improperly posted.

And... they aren't moving them all, just some of them. The commissioner's court, which he names in his original letter is not being moved.

-Mike-