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Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:43 pm
by Mel
Bryanmc wrote:C-dub wrote:As Mel has reminded us, only 30.07 is required at each entrance, while 30.06 is not.
Why is that? Is it because they didn't have a way to modify 30.06 when 30.07 was created but wrote 30.07 to be more specific? When you think of large stores that have entrances on 3 sides of the building, how can a 30.06 posting at only one entrance be sufficient? Is it a defense if you entered through the unposted door and therefore weren't given notice?
*edit* Got called away and hit post after Keith had posted.
I work with the gubermnt (FAA) on a daily basis. One of the things they are proud of saying is,
"We don't answer 'why' questions."
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:38 pm
by Bryanmc
Mel wrote:
I work with the gubermnt (FAA) on a daily basis. One of the things they are proud of saying is, "We don't answer 'why' questions."
I get that (I worked for the G for 28 years). It just seems strange that 30.07 would be required to be posted at every entrance and 30.06 only needs to be posted "in public view". The two requirements read identically except for the added "at every entrance" requirement in 30.07. It's almost like the forgot to add it to 06 once they decided it was a good idea in 07.
And I wasn't thinking about a mall with anchor stores that had exterior entrances, but stand alone stores with multiple entrances.
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:03 pm
by C-dub
Mel wrote:Bryanmc wrote:C-dub wrote:As Mel has reminded us, only 30.07 is required at each entrance, while 30.06 is not.
Why is that? Is it because they didn't have a way to modify 30.06 when 30.07 was created but wrote 30.07 to be more specific? When you think of large stores that have entrances on 3 sides of the building, how can a 30.06 posting at only one entrance be sufficient? Is it a defense if you entered through the unposted door and therefore weren't given notice?
*edit* Got called away and hit post after Keith had posted.
I work with the gubermnt (FAA) on a daily basis. One of the things they are proud of saying is,
"We don't answer 'why' questions."
So it's a little like poker? You gotta pay to see their cards to find out whether they're bluffing or not.
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:11 pm
by The Annoyed Man
Mel wrote:Bryanmc wrote:C-dub wrote:As Mel has reminded us, only 30.07 is required at each entrance, while 30.06 is not.
Why is that? Is it because they didn't have a way to modify 30.06 when 30.07 was created but wrote 30.07 to be more specific? When you think of large stores that have entrances on 3 sides of the building, how can a 30.06 posting at only one entrance be sufficient? Is it a defense if you entered through the unposted door and therefore weren't given notice?
*edit* Got called away and hit post after Keith had posted.
I work with the gubermnt (FAA) on a daily basis. One of the things
they are proud of saying is,
"We don't answer 'why' questions."
One reason why I am increasingly questioning of and irritated by gov't. I specifically ask "why" questions. When I ask them, I'm not misstating my question.....I actually want to know why. It's an honest question. When someone whose salary comes from taxpayers dismisses an honest question like that, then I begin to question whether he or she is still fit to fill the office.
As is often apocryphaly attributed to Cicero, "the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled".
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:00 am
by Oldgringo
Abraham wrote:Simplify by doing business elsewhere you don't see such signs.
Nothing to figure out or guess.
That's how I'd handle it if I came across such confusion and yes, I too would be confused with such signage.
Easy.
Yep, and I might add that there is no point in telling the clerks why you're leaving because they DO NOT CARE.
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:04 pm
by tommyg
If there is a no guns sign of any kind do not buy anything from them call the store manager
and tell him/her no guns signs are bad for business

Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 6:04 pm
by crazy2medic
Concealed is concealed!
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:51 pm
by C-dub
crazy2medic wrote:Concealed is concealed!
I do not and this forum does not advocate ignoring a properly posted 30.06, 30.07, or 51% sign just because concealed is concealed.
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:14 am
by ScottDLS
C-dub wrote:crazy2medic wrote:Concealed is concealed!
I do not and this forum does not advocate ignoring a properly posted 30.06, 30.07, or 51% sign just because concealed is concealed.
If one of the two store's entrances is not posted 30.07 it is NOT "properly posted". The store without the 30.06 is arguably not posted at all...so "concealed is concealed" is not a violation of site rules.
Now excuse me while I go drive 36 mph in a 35 zone....in Maryland.
Re: 2 stores in one building one posted and one is not
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:48 pm
by C-dub
ScottDLS wrote:Now excuse me while I go drive 36 mph in a 35 zone....in Maryland.
Living on the edge, are we?
I suppose it is debatable about whether or not a single 30.06 sign would apply to both a Subway and a convenience store if the sign were only at one entrance, but I do agree with you regarding the 30.07 if it is only at one entrance.