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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:42 am
by RHZig
MrsFosforos wrote: The bersa is much easier to shoot, and more reliably on target (for me). The grip fits more naturally in my hand and the trigger pull is like sliding a warm knife through butter compared to the tomcat!
I was thinking about a Bersa after reading this thread and searching through the forums.


Thanks for the input. :cool:

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:48 pm
by Wildscar
chewy555 wrote:
Wildscar wrote:One thing you will want to keep in mind though. If this is your first firearm you have to asked yourself. Do you want to trust your life to a $300 hundred dollor gun or a $500 dollor gun. :headscratch Its something to think about.

Just my .02
What is wrong with a $300 to $500 gun? I have a Taurus 357 that was $400, and I would trust my life to that gun.
You have to look at what gun it is that you are paying $300 to $500 for, are there some out there in that range that I would not want to trust, yes. But there are a lot that I would. I went the other day and looked at a Glock and it is in that price range. We all know about Glocks, alot of police officer trust their life and the lives of the people in their city to that gun.
Thats kinda what I ment to say. I guess I just needed to elaborate my point. If it was the same gun for either $300 or $500 I would raise and eyebrow at the $300 and ask whats wrong with it. I wasnt trying to start another debate about one Brand being better than the other. That all stuff that be dont in other post.

And for the record I paid 400 for my Beretta. So no there nothing wrong with a $400 gun.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:51 pm
by KaProw
I have duo-Tone Bersa Thunder .380 that is very problematic. It jams (fails to feed) on the last round of the magazine(s) mostly with Federal American Eagle FMJ. last range trip the trigger locked up solid. I ended up just clearing it and tossing it back in the range bag. it is also very dirty to shoot. It spits crap all over your arms and hands.

if I can't get it way more reliable than it is, I'm either Sending back to bersa for warranty repair or trading it off. right now I don't trust it at all and have already replaced it with a S&W J-Frame.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:22 pm
by mr surveyor
In my possession are Kimber, S&W, Ruger, Rossi, and Kel-Tec handguns (and maybe some others :roll: ), and the Kel-Tecs are the "always guns". Admittedly I had some problems with my early serial numbered "second generation" P3AT, but having had previous and very pleasurable experience with a P11, I stuck it out. I also had a KT Sub2000 folding rifle that was excellent, which I traded for a Kel-Tec P32 for my wife. The P32 has been flawless, and if shot placement counts for anything over just making noise and missing targets with a larger caliber, my wife can handle herself. Since my P3AT was returned to me in perfect working order (from one of the very best service departments in any USA made weapons) I was fortunate enough to score a PF9, 9mm pistol. The PF9 has now become my only 9 mm, as I had no reason to keep the others around. Admittedly, Kel-Tec has had some issues with some of their pistols, but any manufacturer that works on such a fine edge of the cutting edge of technology will experience problems. Their handguns are made to be extremely light weight, concealeable, and still pack a potent punch. The designs of the pistols being so light weight cause many shooters to blame the gunn for issues that can often be traced back to "limp wristing". That's all fodder for another thread somewhere else though. Personally, I trust my Kel-Tecs, and my (and wife's) ability to properly use them if needed.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:39 pm
by Sangiovese
My wife shoots a Bersa Thunder .380 and loves it.

I much prefer my XD9, but I would feel comfortable carrying the Bersa for self defense if I was on a restricted budget. It is a very good gun for the money.

Easy to conceal, great trigger, inexpensive, reliable if maintained properly.

I don't have any experience with your other options so can't comment on them.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:06 am
by chewy555
Wildscar wrote: Thats kinda what I ment to say. I guess I just needed to elaborate my point. If it was the same gun for either $300 or $500 I would raise and eyebrow at the $300 and ask whats wrong with it. I wasnt trying to start another debate about one Brand being better than the other. That all stuff that be dont in other post.

And for the record I paid 400 for my Beretta. So no there nothing wrong with a $400 gun.
Sorry, I misunderstood what you had said in the first post. And to the point about the price difference. I think you are right, if you are looking at 2 of the same gun and one is $300 and one is $500, you do have to wonder what is wrong with the $300 one.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:58 am
by PhilR.
Sangiovese wrote:My wife shoots a Bersa Thunder .380 and loves it.
Easy to conceal, great trigger, inexpensive, reliable if maintained properly.
+1

My wife would still have hers (it's the first pistol that she has ever picked out herself) if it weren't for the fact that she has now graduated to slightly more powerful loads, and has now confiscated my Glock 26. At any rate, the Bersa served the purpose of letting her get used to shooting centerfire autos.

After approx. 100 rounds of break-in, the Bersa was 100% for me. The limp-wristing wife however did have an occasional FTF's.

I doubt that I'm going to get the 26 back, since she told me to go out and buy another pistol. I just love her.

Perhaps a PX4 Compact is in my future....

PhilR.