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mojo84 wrote:

twomillenium wrote:IANAL and IMNSHO, it would be a shoulder holster and an ankle holster that "belts" around the leg would be a legal for OC as well.
The state does not have it's own unique definition of a shoulder holster. I think the fact that it uses the should as one of its' supports would make it a legal shoulder holster. An ankle holster with a belt that goes around the leg would be legal as well. The state says "belt" holster not "waist" holster. I have no need at this time to OC so I will let someone who has that burning desire be the test case.

I disagree with your opinion regarding ankle holsters. Those have been discussed and the general consensus is those are not what the legislature intended as a belt is intended to go around one's waist.

Your welcome to your opinion, but it meets the definition of a belt, strap, restraint etc. etc. the state did not say waist and the state did not define belt.

But then I would wonder why one would want to openly wear an ankle belt holster. That would really say "Hey, look at me!!".

Beiruty wrote:Ankle holster's "belt" is better known as a strap.

Not saying your wrong but it also meets the definition of a belt.

BELT a strip or encircling band of something having a specified nature or composition that is different from its surroundings:

Calling the Kenai a chest holster would be like calling a traditional shoulder holster an "arm pit holster". I don't see why the Kenai wouldn't be legal. Both rigs are mainly supported by a shoulder strap, just as a belt holster is supported by a waist "belt" strap.

I agree that I believe the Kenai holsters meet the requirements for a Shoulder holster. It doesn't look that different then the average shoulder holster other then it looks like it only utilizes 1 shoulder and puts the gun a little more squarely in the center of the chest. I've seen some shoulder holsters that do something similar.

Originally when I saw the thread title, I thought the question was being raised about something like a holster attached to a plate carrier or some sort of similar chest rig.

Something like this:


I've wondered if something like that would qualify as a shoulder holster.

Found a better picture of close to what I'd want to wear.

For OC since the chest rig and ballistic plate carrier uses a shoulder straps, I will judge it a shoulder holster too.

Yeah I want to go for runs using some sort of minimalist chest rig, as it is not comfortable to carry my G26 in a belt holster and run, let alone find jogging shorts that would support the weight. "Shoulder or belt holster" is foggy at best for chest rigs.

locke_n_load wrote:Yeah I want to go for runs using some sort of minimalist chest rig, as it is not comfortable to carry my G26 in a belt holster and run, let alone find jogging shorts that would support the weight. "Shoulder or belt holster" is foggy at best for chest rigs.

Check with Tom at 2aholsters, he is who I mentioned in my previous post. Great guy, very responsive and cannot beat his researched approach when developing this one.

http://2aholster.com/product/litepath-chest-holster/

We always end up with someone wanting to push the envelope. I doubt very seriously a holster attached to a plate carrier or tactical vest will be considered a shoulder holster. Why do some feel the need of desire to all the sudden start dressing like they are fighting in a war combat zone? How did you guys survive this long without all of the tactical gear?

mojo84 wrote:We always end up with someone wanting to push the envelope. I doubt very seriously a holster attached to a plate carrier or tactical vest will be considered a shoulder holster. Why do some feel the need of desire to all the sudden start dressing like they are fighting in a war combat zone? How did you guys survive this long without all of the tactical gear?

Mojo - How have you survived without it ?

Kidding aside, I don't intend to put this on and go shopping at Walmart. My honest thought was it might be a great option when hiking/camping because my pack has a waist wrap/belt that makes a gun on belt/waist very uncomfortable.

This is why in 2017 we need to have it changed to "must be carried in a holster." And define holster as: "Any device that may be used to carry a handgun on or about the person."

Under that definition, this would be a legal holster:


Remember, that "Shoulder or belt holster" language was copied form the Oklahoma OC law, and the purpose of it was they didn't want someone carrying a handgun in their hand and calling it open carry, and I understand that concern. So they required it to be carried in a holster, and decided to enumerate holster types. Just plain "Must be carried in a holster." would handle this issue without causing any additional confusion.

Pariah3j wrote:

mojo84 wrote:We always end up with someone wanting to push the envelope. I doubt very seriously a holster attached to a plate carrier or tactical vest will be considered a shoulder holster. Why do some feel the need of desire to all the sudden start dressing like they are fighting in a war combat zone? How did you guys survive this long without all of the tactical gear?

Mojo - How have you survived without it ?

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I'm starting to ask myself the same thing.

Mel wrote:

The Wall wrote:Is a bra a shoulder holster?

I believe that would be a "Hooter Holster"!

When I was a kid we would call them, "Over the shoulder boulder holder."

How could this NOT be a "Shoulder Holster"?

Pariah3j wrote:
Mojo - How have you survived without it ?

Kidding aside, I don't intend to put this on and go shopping at Walmart. My honest thought was it might be a great option when hiking/camping because my pack has a waist wrap/belt that makes a gun on belt/waist very uncomfortable.

exactly.