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vjallen75 wrote:...Still confused as to why, if he wanted to "destroy" said firearm, why "give" it to a gun owning friend?

I guess my brain leans a little too much towards the suspicious side when someone uses other peoples money to overpay for something while declaring it will be destroyed and then transfering said item to a "friend" for "safekeeping". Was any money paid to the winner by the friend for the privilige of "safekeeping"?

That this might be a preacher of "the word" performing such a dubious act is ghastly to me.

Another story about clergy doing evil in a raffle:

Many years ago a Roman Catholic church on Long Island, NY was raffling off a new Buick.

The priest rigged the winning ticket selection so that his niece won the car.

The congregation was quite unhappy with this. :-(

SIA

sugar land dave wrote:

vjallen75 wrote:...Still confused as to why, if he wanted to "destroy" said firearm, why "give" it to a gun owning friend?

I guess my brain leans a little too much towards the suspicious side when someone uses other peoples money to overpay for something while declaring it will be destroyed and then transfering said item to a "friend" for "safekeeping". Was any money paid to the winner by the friend for the privilige of "safekeeping"?

That this might be a preacher of "the word" performing such a dubious act is ghastly to me.

He claims that he intends to destroy it; he also says that he wants to turn it into one or several pieces of artwork. I am curious how he plans to destroy it into artwork. I guess that the guy wants a crumpled up gun to hand above his mantle. Knowing as much as I know about art (not much) and Portland, OR (not much) I'm guessing that he will probably be able to recoup the $3000 in art sales.

sugar land dave wrote:I guess my brain leans a little too much towards the suspicious side when someone uses other peoples money to overpay for something while declaring it will be destroyed and then transfering said item to a "friend" for "safekeeping". Was any money paid to the winner by the friend for the privilige of "safekeeping"?

That this might be a preacher of "the word" performing such a dubious act is ghastly to me.

My point exactly, if you want to destroy it then destroy it. Why waste church funds to buy raffle tickets to win said firearm then give it to someone for "safekeeping". I agree, the whole thing is suspicious

allisji wrote:He claims that he intends to destroy it; he also says that he wants to turn it into one or several pieces of artwork. I am curious how he plans to destroy it into artwork. I guess that the guy wants a crumpled up gun to hand above his mantle. Knowing as much as I know about art (not much) and Portland, OR (not much) I'm guessing that he will probably be able to recoup the $3000 in art sales.

Maybe melt down whatever type of metal that was used to make the firearm and use the melted form for paint? Honestly, either way it seems like a lot of work to prove a point. Only reason I could see the congregation ok with this act is if they told him to do so, other than that I would not be happy about my pastor doing that kind of thing.

It's long overdue that liberal gun haters face prosecution under the very laws they supported when making their "political statements".

wheelgun1958 wrote:It's long overdue that liberal gun haters face prosecution under the very laws they supported when making their "political statements".

they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law they created and or back, I think if this individual no matter what his motive was or what he does for a living he should be prosecuted!

I just wonder what would have happened, if he had bought 3k worth of raffle tickets, and not won the rifle? How would his grandstanding for gun safety had sounded to his sheeple then?