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Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:49 pm
by o b juan
I say ALL polls are meaningless;
I took ma class in statistics in colleg and you can make it end up the way the adminastartor wants it
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:03 pm
by WTR
My wife teaches statistics and research stats at the University level. She has also developed surveys for the effectiveness of grants funded by both the NSF and the Department of Education. I can't tell you the weeks she has spent wording question so that we're not biased or leading., her goal was to get honest feed back no matter the results.in order to evaluate the grants. I!m positive there are poorly constructed polls out there (such as the one referenced in this thread). I also know your contention is incorrect.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 5:39 am
by o b juan
I am assuming you were not in the class I attened
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:49 am
by der Teufel
o b juan wrote:I say ALL polls are meaningless;
I took ma class in statistics in colleg and you can make it end up the way the administrator wants it
It is true that a poll may be designed to produce a desired outcome, however that doesn't mean all polls are meaningless. A poll can be designed to be fair.
It's sort of like saying a dog can be trained to attack. That does not mean that all dogs are attack dogs.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 1:57 pm
by mr1337
It's unlikely to actually happen, no matter what percent of Texans support it.
Secession without bloodshed won't happen, (remember the Civil War?) and I don't think enough people will want it enough to attempt it.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:19 pm
by Pawpaw
mr1337 wrote:It's unlikely to actually happen, no matter what percent of Texans support it.
Secession without bloodshed won't happen, (remember the Civil War?) and I don't think enough people will want it enough to attempt it.
Don't forget, approximately 1/3 of the all military personnel are from Texas. How many of them do you think will attack their home state?

Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:25 pm
by joe817
Pawpaw wrote:Don't forget, approximately 1/3 of the all military personnel are from Texas. How many of them do you think will attack their home state?

Short answer:
NONE!@ 
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:59 pm
by bblhd672
Pawpaw wrote:mr1337 wrote:It's unlikely to actually happen, no matter what percent of Texans support it.
Secession without bloodshed won't happen, (remember the Civil War?) and I don't think enough people will want it enough to attempt it.
Don't forget, approximately 1/3 of the all military personnel are from Texas. How many of them do you think will attack their home state?

Depends on how many of them are from Austin, or how many of them had liberal brainwashing, I mean education, that overrides their good sense.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 3:10 pm
by CleverNickname
I choose secession if Trump is elected, too.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:48 pm
by J.R.@A&M
Sorry, but the idea of secession is just stupid. It was not a good idea in 1861 (politically, financially, militarily, or in any other way I can think of) and it is not a good idea today. Texas is a great State, but it is better off from its association within the United States.
With the wisdom of their experience, I expect my Confederate ancestors would agree with me.
If Clinton is elected, I will depend on the checks and balances of Congress (mainly), as well as an assertion of federalism by Texas and other states. If Trump is elected, I will depend on the same.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:33 pm
by Lena
And what would that do to Federal jobs, defense plants, post offices, military bases, VA Hospital for vets, Social Security accounts and the like ? So many more to. Lots to consider there.
I would love not to be associated in anything she was in charge of.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 8:46 pm
by jason812
J.R.@A&M wrote:
I will depend on the checks and balances of Congress

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day.
Unless something drastically changes, there are no checks or balances. The current congress has bent over backwards to hand obummer just about everything he asked for and fulfilled nothing they have campaigned towards.
Wasn't it Sam Houston that said Texas can get by without the United States but the United States can't get by without Texas? Those words are still true today.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 11:05 pm
by dale blanker
J.R.@A&M wrote:Sorry, but the idea of secession is just stupid. It was not a good idea in 1861 (politically, financially, militarily, or in any other way I can think of) and it is not a good idea today. Texas is a great State, but it is better off from its association within the United States.
With the wisdom of their experience, I expect my Confederate ancestors would agree with me.
If Clinton is elected, I will depend on the checks and balances of Congress (mainly), as well as an assertion of federalism by Texas and other states. If Trump is elected, I will depend on the same.
Thanks for the dose of common sense... it seems to be a more and more scarce commodity these days.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:29 am
by infoman
I'm voting for Hillary & proud of it. I'm not voting for Donald Trump.
Re: Poll: 3 Out of 5 Texans Choose Secession if Clinton is Elected
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:53 am
by rbwhatever1
When government places itself above its own laws and the people its time to abolish it and start over. I think we are way past that point.