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Some Last Names Are Just Weird to Spell Anyway
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:23 pm
by Hoppes
seamusTX wrote:Sorry about the misspelling. It's not exactly as easy to remember as Smith.
- Jim
Well, that is a strange name to spell anyway. The other day on the Quinn and Rose Show (Satellite), Quinn and Rose were complaining about the spelling of Tiahrt and Schoenke, which is also a hard one to spell if you haven't ever heard of either guy. No need to apologize to me Seamus. It is not a common name to spell.
They were tying the Tiahrt Amendment story to the American Hunters and Shooters Association and Ray Schoenke, the President of that organziation. Schoenke has noted connections to many gun control groups. Quinn was complaining about the deceptive name of the organization. It sounds like it is a pro hunting and shooting organization, when in reality, it is a front for a gun control organization funded by many of the same folks funding the Brady Campaign. The Brady Campaign agenda is to get further control of handguns and rifles.
Hoppes
Re: Some Last Names Are Just Weird to Spell Anyway
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:40 pm
by seamusTX
Hoppes wrote:They were tying the Tiahrt Amendment story to the American Hunters and Shooters Association and Ray Schoenke, the President of that organziation. Schoenke has noted connections to many gun control groups. Quinn was complaining about the deceptive name of the organization. It sounds like it is a pro hunting and shooting organization, when in reality, it is a front for a gun control organization funded by many of the same folks funding the Brady Campaign.
Right. The NRA is all over it.
- Jim
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:24 pm
by badkarma56
Thanks again for the responses, guys. I feel pretty good about the quality of my fingerprints now.
Let's Keep Firearms Databases From Politicians
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:33 pm
by Hoppes
badkarma56 wrote:seamusTX wrote:
badkarma56 wrote:... I've personally been fingerprinted at least five times in my life ... including this most recent set for the CHL application. Surely, there's got to already be a "classifiable" set of my prints previously stored in some government database with either the Feds or Texas or both!!
Personally, I don't want that kind of cross-referencing to take place. It has potential for abuse.
- Jim
SeamusTX,
I totally hear you,
loud and clear dude! I'm
by no means a fan of
big brother; however, I wouldn't mind "them" doing a little "data mining" for the
limited purpose of classifying fingerprints and thus expediting CHL permit issuance for law-abiding Americans.
Sadly, the cynic in me believes that they've already "cross-referenced" nearly every American's private information for other debatable purposes (e.g., the provisions of the Patriot Act, NSA-managed domestic surveillance programs, etc.). I believe it's simply the case that our current government wants to
and likely already has cataloged many citizen's personal information in furtherance of a
sub rosa "security" agenda, while simultaneously the same government hacks publicly
pretend to be "back-logged" and incapable of quickly processing licenses, passports, etc. Have you tried to renew your passport recently? Let me assure you that the passport renewal process is completely out of control! I've been waiting
three months already for that issue to get squared-away...
Perhaps I'm just too mean and critical of bureaucrats, or maybe I'm listening to far too much
Coast to Coast A.M. with George Noory and Art Bell!
Jim,
I suppose you knew that the Tiahrt (There is that hard to spell name again) Amendment passed right? That at least keeps some information out of the hands of politicians and gun control folks. Below is a link to the story if you have not read it.
http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsRel ... px?ID=9746
Hoppes
Re: Let's Keep Firearms Databases From Politicians
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:43 pm
by seamusTX
Hoppes wrote:I suppose you knew that the Tiahrt (There is that hard to spell name again) Amendment passed right?
Yes, thanks. I get those e-mails from the NRA.
- Jim
Finger Prints
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:39 pm
by dawg
I was told by my instructor that when the DPS gets behind processing applications (which is often) they will look for the slightest imperfection on the print cards and send the applicaiton back to the applicant.
Re: Finger Prints
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:01 pm
by badkarma56
dawg wrote:I was told by my instructor that when the DPS gets behind processing applications (which is often) they will look for the slightest imperfection on the print cards and send the applicaiton back to the applicant.
I sincerely hope that isn't true...although, I can unfortunately
visualize this sort of thing occurring in an office full of civil servants.
Re: Finger Prints
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:29 pm
by txinvestigator
dawg wrote:I was told by my instructor that when the DPS gets behind processing applications (which is often) they will look for the slightest imperfection on the print cards and send the applicaiton back to the applicant.
That is not true at all. DPS prints and run via computer. The computer rejects them.
Re: Finger Prints
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:05 pm
by Hoppes
txinvestigator wrote:dawg wrote:I was told by my instructor that when the DPS gets behind processing applications (which is often) they will look for the slightest imperfection on the print cards and send the applicaiton back to the applicant.
That is not true at all. DPS prints and run via computer. The computer rejects them.
Most agencies now make use of technology in many business processes. Although it is not often on the par with private corporations because of limited funds for the better systems.
The big problem with agency systems is that agencies frequently build their processes around technology instead of technology around business requirements. Bureaucracy breeds bureaucracy. This is what creates all these delays for the most part.
I doubt computers start rejecting more fingerprint cards when things are behind. That would not be logical.
H 
PPES
Re: Finger Prints
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:11 pm
by Hoppes
dawg wrote:I was told by my instructor that when the DPS gets behind processing applications (which is often) they will look for the slightest imperfection on the print cards and send the applicaiton back to the applicant.
Don't believe everything your instructor says without investigating things for yourself. It's not a good practice and instructors are human.
I've taken a lot of classes, courses, and seminars in my life and to be honest, I've found a large percentage of things I just couldn't drag my self to believe as fact.
H PPES
Government Pay For Something?
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:44 pm
by Hoppes
seamusTX wrote:Let me try to allay your fears.
The federal government must pay for whatever it does.
- Jim
Then what in the world are they doing with our dollars????
I couldn't resist that Jim
Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:58 pm
by Tim the Teacher
In some Sherriff's offices in Florida they have the capability to do digital fingerprints. I had that done in Pinellas County and my Florida CHL was processed in 18 days door to door. Thier website says it speeds up the process as much as 4 weeks. If Florida can do it why not Texas?????
I also worked at a top secret location in Nevada and couldn't get on the site unless my fingerprints matched the ones stored digitally on a computer. I had three tries with my right hand and 1 try with my left hand and if they were not recognized I had an M16 in my back escorting me to a security office.
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:11 am
by badkarma56
Tim the Teacher wrote:...I also worked at a top secret location in Nevada and couldn't get on the site unless my fingerprints matched the ones stored digitally on a computer...
Whoa, dude! Which "top secret location" in Nevada did
you work at?
Groom Lake perhaps...
