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Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:23 am
by oohrah
bdgyeah wrote:That's interesting that you saw that inside the secure area of the airport where no firearms are allowed. Do have a question though. Is there a vetting process for businesses that request a 51% sign, or is it granted without any questions asked? I ask this because I've seen a couple places with 51% signs that I find very hard to believe that they qualify.
I recall reading that the TABC requests an estimate of annual sales when a new licensee applies. The licensee cannot request one sign or the other. The TABC makes the determination based on % alcohol sales. Upon renewal, the TABC reviews the actual sales from history and may change the gun sign depending on % sales.
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:19 am
by RogueUSMC
But according to the OP this place sells no alcohol. The only penalty for a wrong sign of this sort is possible loss of license. If there is no license to lose, I don't see that anyone has any say as to what sign he has posted...
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:22 am
by LucasMcCain
I'm not very familiar with the TABC laws. Is a 51% sign supposed to signify that the business has a license to sell alcohol? If the business has no such license, could they get in trouble for posting the sign because of that? I don't know. Just wondering.
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:22 am
by RogueUSMC
I think the license is the only thing that can be held over their head for improper signage. I don't believe there is criminal penalties at all. If you don't have a license, I don't think they have a thing any leverage on you...
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:12 pm
by KLB
Some people (poorly informed ones) may try to use a 51% sign as a substitute for 30.06 and 30.07 signs. I surmise they may like it because the reference to a felony is scarier than what's on 30.06 and 30.07 signs. Of course the effort is ineffective, but if you don't know, you may find it tempting.
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:38 pm
by Lynyrd
Rex B wrote:For a business that sells alcohol, that TABC license is critical to viability. With alcohol sales they may as well close up. So staying on the good side of TABC is Job 1.
When TABC tells them they have the wrong sign posted, and explains which sign they need, the sign gets changed ....Pronto!
I'm sure that a business would do exactly that. What I'm not sure of is whether or not the TABC would tell them to put up the blue sign.
I can take you to a restaurant that has a 51% sign up right now. On the TABC website, their listing says they should have the blue sign. I filed a complaint with the TABC a couple of months ago. Nothing changed. Either the TABC does not keep their website current and the status of that license has actually changed, or the TABC hasn't said anything to them about putting up the wrong sign.
I asked the manager about the sign, and she asked me if I was with the TABC. When I said no, she said this is the sign we are supposed to have, then turned and walked away quickly.
Re: 51% - Uh Huh
Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:49 pm
by E.Marquez
Lynyrd wrote:
I asked the manager about the sign, and she asked me if I was with the TABC. When I said no, she said this is the sign we are supposed to have, then turned and walked away quickly.
Screenshot the TABC page that shows blue sign
Drop that off with the manager next time your there and tell her, well good to know you are right and TABC is wrong on what sign you have up.. I really like coming here and hate to see the company and management dragged in to court like that other place in (fictitious other place).
I heard the management team all got thrown under the buss by owners who claimed the actual on site day to day happenings were a direct responsibility of the managers.
Thanks for watching out for the business, I really enjoy the food here.
Have a nice day.