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Re: First Hand Police Officer(s) Opinion On CC

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:39 am
by goose
thetexan wrote:Yeah. You would start trial with one footin the grave.

How can one argue that you found yourself in a situation where the use of deadly force was reasonably believed to be immediately necessary at a location where you where legally prohibited from be present?
If it was a justifiable shooting, you don;t have to argue how you found yourself in that situation. You may have to argue the definition of the threat, i.e. "he had a baseball bat" or "he had a knife" etc. Once you define the deadly force from the bad guy you have already explained how you found yourself there. Next your lawyer asks if members of the jury have ever had a family member in a hospital. Then your lawyer asks them if they want criminals to run free in hospitals harming people. While it may not be fun, I do not suspect the grand jury or trial would last long.
thetexan wrote:Had you obeyed the law you would have never felt it immediately necessary to use a gun that you never should have had to defend yourself in a situation you never should have been in?
This isn't an accurate statement/question. If a person had obeyed the sign they still would have felt it immediately necessary to use a gun when the treat presented itself. They simply wouldn't have had one at their disposal. The sign doesn't remove the need.
thetexan wrote:tex

Re: First Hand Police Officer(s) Opinion On CC

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 7:24 am
by OneGun
thetexan wrote:Two issues here and I'll preach them till I'm blue in the face.



We're not playing a game of Monopoly here. These are real rules with real consequences and real prosecutors.

tex
Does not apply if you are a Clinton!

Re: First Hand Police Officer(s) Opinion On CC

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:21 am
by OldCurlyWolf
nightmare69 wrote:I would never encourage breaking the law no matter the penalty. However, I've always given LTC holders professional courtesy during traffic stops.

During any type of force on force training or training with blue guns we are also disarmed. I've been to training teams they have gone as far to wand us with a metal detector then go through a pat down. That was at ALERRT active shooter training.

There are some grey area like our local mall with 20 public entrances but only 3 posted that concealed means concealed. Grey areas such as that are the exception IMO. I would never give someone the OK to walk past a valid sign.
Those procedures probably originated with that training "Accident" in Irving about 15 years ago.
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