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Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:17 pm
by parabelum
Inconvenient truth is that Bashar al-Assad regime has and is protecting endangered Christians in Syria as well as minority Alawites.
The so-called "rebels" are nothing more then ISIS sympathizing fascists, hiding behind woman and children like rotten cowards that they are.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:21 pm
by Beiruty
parabelum wrote:Inconvenient truth is that Bashar al-Assad regime has and is protecting endangered Christians in Syria as well as minority Alawites.
The so-called "rebels" are nothing more then ISIS sympathizing fascists, hiding behind woman and children like rotten cowards that they are.
The problem is that US supported the so called "Rebels", got the ISIS problem as bonus and made of Libya and Yemen a no state countries. Iran meddling is making it only worse.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:23 pm
by Beiruty
I am out of here. It is getting into politics discussion, rather than humanitarian case.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:23 pm
by parabelum
Beiruty wrote:parabelum wrote:Inconvenient truth is that Bashar al-Assad regime has and is protecting endangered Christians in Syria as well as minority Alawites.
The so-called "rebels" are nothing more then ISIS sympathizing fascists, hiding behind woman and children like rotten cowards that they are.
The problem is that US supported the so called "Rebels", got the ISIS problem as bonus and made of Libya and Yemen a no state countries. Iran meddling is making it only worse.
That I agree with. US should not have meddled.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:45 pm
by mojo84
AndyC wrote:I want to know where the heck this guy's security-detail was; he was an ambassador, for Pete's sake. Threat analysis - fail.
Even after the shooting, nothing? Seems like it was planned and orchestrated since there was no response.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:29 pm
by mojo84
Shooter is an off duty 22 yr. old cop that shot him 8 times according to Fox News.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:43 pm
by ScottDLS
mojo84 wrote:Shooter was is an off duty 22 yr. old cop that shot him 8 times according to Fox News.
Another reason why only highly trained police and military should have guns....especially in Turkey. Another casualty of the all powerful "gun lobby".
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:01 pm
by KD5NRH
AndyC wrote:I want to know where the heck this guy's security-detail was; he was an ambassador, for Pete's sake. Threat analysis - fail.
Russian threat analysis: there's always a threat. Stay ready to kill it.
Somebody got bribed here, or else the shooter used his police credentials creatively enough to get the victim away from his detail.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:22 pm
by AJSully421
Beiruty wrote:Soap wrote:AJSully421 wrote:One thing I know for sure... the media is going to tell us that this was not islamic terrorism.

Well isn't it terrorism responding to terrorism?
Terrorism is an overloaded word.
In short, it is successful assassination of a diplomatic figure in retaliation for a religious-sect cleansing in Syria. What happened in Aleppo is war genocide. A metroplex City as big as Dallas was destroyed regardless of who was there, if you watch some videos of infants being pulled out of the rubbles after an Air Strike, you would hate all kind of wars regardless of its political intent. It is World War 3, were US (and their allies) chickened out from the fight after so many red lines were drawn in the shoreline sand using clear lipsticks.
Not to blame anyone or condemn this against that. In the name of Freedom, a million or so lives were destroyed and 5-6 millions were forced to leave their homeland. In the name of fighting terrorism, the same genocide happened.
Beiruty, I can agree that terrorism is overused, and I have to be careful not to paint with too broad of a brush, but for me it is easy to boil it down.
Just because some muslim does something does not make it automatically terrorism. If a muslim robs a corner store, and shoots the clerk... is it terrorism or just good old crime? To me that is easy, that is just regular crime.
Now, if a muslim goes into his place of employment and starts yelling allahu akbar and cutting heads off... that is terrorism.
Muslims in war-torn areas fighting and shooting... not terrorism, that is just war.
In this exact case, shooting an uninvolved ambassador to "send a message" about the plight of Syria? yeah.... that is terrorism.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:14 pm
by Beiruty
Intentionally killing innocent civilians at war is a war crime, at large scale it's is a genocide. Killing innocent civilians outside the battlefield, is a murder, if its done to inflict a political influence, it is terrorism.. The assination above is a murder, a revange act and terrorism
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:56 pm
by DevilDawg
the shooter is lucky he is dead, sadly his family or friends are likely going to get a lesson in why Russia is typically left alone. The last time one of their diplomats was killed was before the former KGB leader was in charge. They can be swift and brutal in a way that anyone believing in jihad will understand.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:00 am
by mojo84
News reports are another Russian diplomat has been found dead.
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:59 am
by Pariah3j
mojo84 wrote:News reports are another Russian diplomat has been found dead.
Haven't heard/seen reports on that this morning - any good news article links ?
Re: Russian ambassador killed
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:04 am
by mojo84
Pariah3j wrote:mojo84 wrote:News reports are another Russian diplomat has been found dead.
Haven't heard/seen reports on that this morning - any good news article links ?
Saw it on my Twitter feed. Will see if I can track it down.