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The Annoyed Man wrote:

rm9792 wrote:Thanks for the help, I ordered a new extractor, lone wolf extractor spring and gen 4 ejector.

I don't want to "take advantage of your misery" so to speak, but I will be very curious to know if these parts fix your problem. I hope it never happens to me, but it will be nice to know if it is easily (and cheaply) fixed.

Will update this thread once I get the parts tested. I am going to replace 1 at a time to see if I can narrow it down.

I was at the range not too long ago helping a young lady get ready to qualify for her LTC. One of the guys she works with was bragging about his Glock and how it would shoot forever while her Beretta 92 would fail. The very next round the Glock malfunctioned, followed by one round every four or five shots fired. The malfunctions were exactly as you describe other than the frequency, after looking at his Glock I realized the extractor had chipped and was missing about a third of the surface area that engages the rim of the case.

The guy who owned the Glock still swears it didn't malfunction, but did ask me if I knew a good Glock armorer. Last I heard the young lady I was helping practice shot a single ragged hole for qualification, and the Glock owner qualified with a loaner from a friend. Their boss, who paid for their class, as I understand it qualified with a Les Baer 1911.

18-2k through my 19 and never an issue like that. I don't plan on changing anything until it breaks. It's all stock gen 3 g19 except for sights and extended slide release

Sounds like an extractor problem to me. It's odd for a Glock to have that problem. I'd expect it out of a 1911 haha sorry 1911 guys I had to. But seriously tho I'd start there

cmgee67 wrote:Sounds like an extractor problem to me. It's odd for a Glock to have that problem. I'd expect it out of a 1911 haha sorry 1911 guys I had to. But seriously tho I'd start there

A few hours late to the party.

A 1911 guy already gave him some advice. 'Course, the OP's a 1911 guy, too.

Dang it! Lol

Chipped extractor can occur from placing round in chamber and closing slide. It is best to chamber via the mag, so the extractor does not have to jump over the base rim while slide closes.

I had a bunch of failure to ejects in my gen 4 glock 26 after around 1500 rounds. happened with different mags and different ammo.
My recoil spring assembly was the lastest part number, and so was the ejector (google glock brass to face to read all about the ejector part number change). So the only other issue was the extractor, which looked fine, but I found out they had changed the geometry of it sometime earlier. So replaced my extractor and spring loaded bearing (they need to be for the same model) for gen 2 components that lone wolf had in stock. Solved my problem, even though it looks slightly different to people who really know their late model glocks. Good luck.

G.A. Heath wrote:I was at the range not too long ago helping a young lady get ready to qualify for her LTC. One of the guys she works with was bragging about his Glock and how it would shoot forever while her Beretta 92 would fail. The very next round the Glock malfunctioned, followed by one round every four or five shots fired. The malfunctions were exactly as you describe other than the frequency, after looking at his Glock I realized the extractor had chipped and was missing about a third of the surface area that engages the rim of the case.

The guy who owned the Glock still swears it didn't malfunction, but did ask me if I knew a good Glock armorer. Last I heard the young lady I was helping practice shot a single ragged hole for qualification, and the Glock owner qualified with a loaner from a friend. Their boss, who paid for their class, as I understand it qualified with a Les Baer 1911.

The Glock extractor didn't fail. The cases failed to adjust to the enhanced extractor geometry.

ammoboy2 wrote:Chipped extractor can occur from placing round in chamber and closing slide. It is best to chamber via the mag, so the extractor does not have to jump over the base rim while slide closes.

That's good to know. Thanks for that little bitty of knowledge. It's not something I do habitually, but it is something I have done a few times in my life in various guns. Not any more.

Texsquatch wrote:

G.A. Heath wrote:I was at the range not too long ago helping a young lady get ready to qualify for her LTC. One of the guys she works with was bragging about his Glock and how it would shoot forever while her Beretta 92 would fail. The very next round the Glock malfunctioned, followed by one round every four or five shots fired. The malfunctions were exactly as you describe other than the frequency, after looking at his Glock I realized the extractor had chipped and was missing about a third of the surface area that engages the rim of the case.

The guy who owned the Glock still swears it didn't malfunction, but did ask me if I knew a good Glock armorer. Last I heard the young lady I was helping practice shot a single ragged hole for qualification, and the Glock owner qualified with a loaner from a friend. Their boss, who paid for their class, as I understand it qualified with a Les Baer 1911.

The Glock extractor didn't fail. The cases failed to adjust to the enhanced extractor geometry.

Exactly.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

ammoboy2 wrote:Chipped extractor can occur from placing round in chamber and closing slide. It is best to chamber via the mag, so the extractor does not have to jump over the base rim while slide closes.

That's good to know. Thanks for that little bitty of knowledge. It's not something I do habitually, but it is something I have done a few times in my life in various guns. Not any more.

There are like 2 pistol models out there that are designed for the extractor to jump the rim of the case. Glock aint one of them.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

rm9792 wrote:I am good...I broke a Glock!

You will either go down as a gross fraud, or one of the mightiest men in history!

Dang it. I lolled in the office. Thankfully, no one has looked into my office yet.

Skiprr wrote: If I were to take stab at diagnosis, I'd say one of two things: the extractor itself or the extractor spring and/or depressor. My money would be on the spring and/or depressor.

This post was awesome. I love watching a problem solving mind at work.

ammoboy2 wrote:Chipped extractor can occur from placing round in chamber and closing slide. It is best to chamber via the mag, so the extractor does not have to jump over the base rim while slide closes.

Nice little nugget to find in here. This makes sense. Good to know.

ammoboy2 wrote:Chipped extractor can occur from placing round in chamber and closing slide. It is best to chamber via the mag, so the extractor does not have to jump over the base rim while slide closes.

AHA! I have done that several times, was told it was "OK" by "experts" at the gun store. I know never to do that in a 1911. Also, I tried one of those ghost glocks 80% lowers. It had all gen4 parts in it so I pilfered the ejector and replaced my original Gen3. As soon as Midway brings my stuff I can go test the new extractor out. Will compare the old extractor to the new one and report back for those interested.