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Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:03 pm
by WTR
The article said he was holding the teen until backup arrived. I assume he must have already called 911.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:27 pm
by Embalmo
The crowd seemed to be ever growing. I kept wondering what the older gentleman with the stick was going to do. Unless you've got cuffs, a badge, and backup on the way, it just doesn't seem like a good idea to detain someone. Maybe I'm just seeing it from an LTC's perspective, but it seemed like a powder keg from the very beginning. It's a miracle no one was injured.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:57 pm
by Ameer
The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't know why any one in California would want to be a cop there. The first big wave of departures was people leaving the state to follow their jobs. The next wave of departures will be LEOs, Firemen, and Paramedics, who are very tired of having to daily face a rabble that no longer has any respect for authority. Eventually, the police departments will be staffed with unqualified thugs and released felons as the state's gov't tries to fill the ranks with the "victims of oppression". At that point, police depts will no longer be police, but rather the enforcement arms of the various bureaucracies run by SJWs.
Eventually? A cop in california already is expected to enforce a plethora of obviously unconstitutional laws.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:02 pm
by Embalmo
Is it even allowed by police policy to detain a perp uncuffed by holding on to their clothes? Sometimes you just have to cut bait.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:11 pm
by Embalmo
Why doesn't everyone just carry pepper spray? It's cheap, very effective, and it causes zero alarm when you carry it with your finger on the trigger. I have found from personal experience that a teenager will switch from fight to polite in a fraction of a second when a pepper spray canister is pointed at their face.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:23 am
by EdnaBambrick
KLB wrote:California is a mess, but why did he fire into the air? Why not the ground--if a warning shot was necessary?

Wordsworth didn't mean anything quite so literal, but the point is close enough that it comes to mind:

The Arrow and the Song
By Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?

Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend.
Wadsworth and Shakespeare (Hamlet) are wrong. It is our responsibility to know where our arrows land.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:19 am
by The Annoyed Man
EdnaBambrick wrote:
KLB wrote:California is a mess, but why did he fire into the air? Why not the ground--if a warning shot was necessary?

Wordsworth didn't mean anything quite so literal, but the point is close enough that it comes to mind:

The Arrow and the Song
By Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.

I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?

Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend.
Wadsworth and Shakespeare (Hamlet) are wrong. It is our responsibility to know where our arrows land.
I think that was actually Wadsworth's point.

I'm a poet, and I don't know it. My feet are like Longfellow's, and they smell like the Dickens. :mrgreen:

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:17 pm
by bigtek
KLB wrote:California is a mess, but why did he fire into the air? Why not the ground--if a warning shot was necessary?
I'm not sure the shot was intentional.

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:06 pm
by o b juan
Warning shots are (wait for it) "DEADLY FORCE" Regardles of up or down!!

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:41 pm
by Wolverine
o b juan wrote:Warning shots are (wait for it) "DEADLY FORCE" Regardles of up or down!!
It looks like he's getting a pass and they're charging an unarmed teen instead. Any bets if an off duty plumber who grabbed a gun to confront kids cutting across his lawn would get the same break in California? :lol:

Re: CA: Maybe already too late for them

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:10 pm
by philip964
Mike S wrote:
As to why the adult didn't just let it go? He says on video that the young lad said "Man, I'll shoot you!". Lad refutes this on video, saying he said "sue you", not "shoot you". What was really said? Ain't got a clue.
A thirteen year old of his word as he sued the police officer for emotional distress today.

Boy, 13, sues off-duty LAPD officer who fired gun in videotaped clash with teens in Anaheim - LA Times - www.latimes.com
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

The libs are all over this as it showed up on my Communist Apple News iPhone today.