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RPBrown wrote:Prayers for all involved and their families. A lot of lives have been shaken by this.

Even if an LTC holder did step in to stop it, it would never be reported as such from Austin. The Chief of police wold indeed give his department the credit as would all of MOM's and the rest of the leftist's.

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard the Chief (live) make the comment about an LTC holder.

Prayers for the surviving victims and the family of the deceased victim.

The loss of this young man is tragic. His whole life a head of him. I cannot even imagine the pain his parents are going through. I remember sending off a young man to college, to have it end like this is heartbreaking.

There are reports that the killer began acting strangely in the last few days and this was not like him. However other reports are showing a grainy video that supposedly shows the killer reenacting the 1804 Haitian Massacre with a knife. (I had to look it up, never knew about it). The are no main stream media reports on the latter so, I am holding off making a judgement.

RIP.

I lived in Haiti in the early sixties for a little over 2 years but don't recall ever hearing anything about a 1804 Haitian massacre. There did appear to be a lot of machetes around during my time there an was a weapon of choice for some.

From the one who posted the original mention of the CHL:

No confirmation that a student with a CHL stopped the crime. I apologize for sending that message in a GroupMe to friends before confirming.

From what I can tell, the source was at least fourth-hand to the reporter. How that qualifies as news confounds me.

The only sources I've seen on a LTC being involved came from twitter, so they are certainly not verifiable or reliable. I think the first one was the LTC in question, who then deleted his tweet. The second was a friend of his who was just relaying what he said, and then she basically retracted her statement after saying that she wasn't there and her friend had deleted his tweet, so she needed to find out more about what actually happened.

Nothing from the MSM or any official channels, but I wouldn't expect there to be even if it did happen.

As others have said, a very sad incident, and a chilling reminder that there is evil in this world and it will try to kill you regardless of the means at its disposal.

Could there EVER be a more tailor made example regarding the necessity for self defense through Campus Carry?? Get the word out!!

Suspect was "involuntarily committed" earlier this year and was taking "happy pills".

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/crime-- ... 2gGR1AQVJ/

Notice the focus is on what a good, normal person he was. No mention of the knife outside of the title, and every other instance mentioning the violent act is called an "attack" not a stabbing. If a gun had been used, you can bet that the type of gun and the fact that it was a shooting would have been all over the article.

@Dale Blanker - this is exactly why the Statesman is not the wonderful unbiased source of information that you seem to think it is.

Papa_Tiger wrote:Suspect was "involuntarily committed" earlier this year and was taking "happy pills".

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/crime-- ... 2gGR1AQVJ/

Notice the focus is on what a good, normal person he was. No mention of the knife outside of the title, and every other instance mentioning the violent act is called an "attack" not a stabbing. If a gun had been used, you can bet that the type of gun and the fact that it was a shooting would have been all over the article.

@Dale Blanker - this is exactly why the Statesman is not the wonderful unbiased source of information that you seem to think it is.

Besides the important things you pointed out, I'd like to add one more. The killer didn't use a firearm, so maybe "the system" worked in that regard. However, he WANTED to harm/kill other people, and he still found a way to do that, despite not having a firearm. Which, IMHO, just confirms that it isn't the weapon, but the intent of the person using it, that matters.

K.Mooneyham wrote:The killer didn't use a firearm, so maybe "the system" worked in that regard. However, he WANTED to harm/kill other people, and he still found a way to do that, despite not having a firearm. Which, IMHO, just confirms that it isn't the weapon, but the intent of the person using it, that matters.

Uh...no. He used an "system defined illegal" knife, so the "system" of banning weapons did not work. Criminals and deranged persons do not obey the laws.

bblhd672 wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote:The killer didn't use a firearm, so maybe "the system" worked in that regard. However, he WANTED to harm/kill other people, and he still found a way to do that, despite not having a firearm. Which, IMHO, just confirms that it isn't the weapon, but the intent of the person using it, that matters.

Uh...no. He used an "system defined illegal" knife, so the "system" of banning weapons did not work. Criminals and deranged persons do not obey the laws.

I seriously doubt, that, had he been so inclined, he would have had any problem obtaining a firearm, or been dissuaded from carrying it and using it based on any prohibitions for doing so. JMHO

anytime you want a firearm, break into a few trucks outside of a post office or other GFZ. Only takes 5 min and you will probably get 2!

Jusme wrote:

bblhd672 wrote:

K.Mooneyham wrote:The killer didn't use a firearm, so maybe "the system" worked in that regard. However, he WANTED to harm/kill other people, and he still found a way to do that, despite not having a firearm. Which, IMHO, just confirms that it isn't the weapon, but the intent of the person using it, that matters.

Uh...no. He used an "system defined illegal" knife, so the "system" of banning weapons did not work. Criminals and deranged persons do not obey the laws.

I seriously doubt, that, had he been so inclined, he would have had any problem obtaining a firearm, or been dissuaded from carrying it and using it based on any prohibitions for doing so. JMHO

Per reports he had been INVOLUNTARILY committed to a mental health care facility. Until he is adjudged by more than one doctor to be mentally stable he would be a prohibited person for purchasing a firearm.

OldCurlyWolf wrote:
Per reports he had been INVOLUNTARILY committed to a mental health care facility. Until he is adjudged by more than one doctor to be mentally stable he would be a prohibited person for purchasing a firearm.

He was also prohibited by Texas law from carrying an illegal knife, and from murdering people, yet that seemed to have little effect on his behavior.

ScottDLS wrote:

OldCurlyWolf wrote:
Per reports he had been INVOLUNTARILY committed to a mental health care facility. Until he is adjudged by more than one doctor to be mentally stable he would be a prohibited person for purchasing a firearm.

He was also prohibited by Texas law from carrying an illegal knife, and from murdering people, yet that seemed to have little effect on his behavior.

Exactly, murder is illegal, no matter how it is done.

Well, nice to see folks misunderstand the intent of what I was getting at.