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Vol Texan wrote:

Keith B wrote:

LAYGO wrote:This guy clearly hasn't thought out post-shoot logistics, representation, and SHUTTING YOUR MOUTH. :(

http://www.wfaa.com/news/two-shot-kille ... /436569576

Uh, I don't see in the link where he has said anyting other than 'he was in fear for his and other's lives'. You should provide basics on who you are, what happened and why you engsged. Sounds like he did. Nothing else is revealed that he may or may not have said.

I'm just guessing here, but I believe LAYGO may be referring to the video, where the LTC holder was talking with police officers. Myself, I think I would have said, "Officer, I don't feel really well right now, and I don't feel like talking." That is an unobtrusive way of saying, "I wish not to talk right now", and gets you the time you need to get representation.

EGG ZACK LEE™

In the video, the purported LTC & rescuer is smiling & having a conversation with the officers.

I have no problems with what he did, but law enforcement eventually might & do you really want this as your legacy on video?[/quote]

mojo84 wrote:I have never heard the term "breastaurant" before.

Maybe the reporter doesn't speak Spanish and confused the Alitas featured on their website for a neighboring part of the chicken.

Hope the LTC wasn't intoxicated...he might lose his presumption of reasonableness. 'Cuz we all know it's not reasonable to shoot a guy just for killing the manager...

The reports I saw categorized this establishment as a "bar". If this is true, did it have a 51% sign? Because if so, the good guy was not in legal carry.

jggatlin wrote:The reports I saw categorized this establishment as a "bar". If this is true, did it have a 51% sign? Because if so, the good guy was not in legal carry.

Keith B wrote:A man walked into the Zona Caliente Sports Bar in Arlington and shot and killed a employee. Someone in the bar pulled their gun and shot and killed the shooter. Authorities are working to determine if the shooter had an LTC. http://www.fox4news.com/news/252518185-story

Before you ask, Zona Caliente is a BLUE business per the TABC database.

I am assuming alcohol is not their primary business.

jggatlin wrote:The reports I saw categorized this establishment as a "bar". If this is true, did it have a 51% sign? Because if so, the good guy was not in legal carry.

License #: MB940345
Trade Name: ZONA CALIENTE SPORTS BAR
Gun Sign: BLUE

LAYGO wrote:

Vol Texan wrote:

Keith B wrote:

LAYGO wrote:This guy clearly hasn't thought out post-shoot logistics, representation, and SHUTTING YOUR MOUTH. :(

http://www.wfaa.com/news/two-shot-kille ... /436569576

Uh, I don't see in the link where he has said anyting other than 'he was in fear for his and other's lives'. You should provide basics on who you are, what happened and why you engsged. Sounds like he did. Nothing else is revealed that he may or may not have said.

I'm just guessing here, but I believe LAYGO may be referring to the video, where the LTC holder was talking with police officers. Myself, I think I would have said, "Officer, I don't feel really well right now, and I don't feel like talking." That is an unobtrusive way of saying, "I wish not to talk right now", and gets you the time you need to get representation.

EGG ZACK LEE™

In the video, the purported LTC & rescuer is smiling & having a conversation with the officers.

I have no problems with what he did, but law enforcement eventually might & do you really want this as your legacy on video?

[/quote]

I'm sure they were just talking about the Rangers baseball season.....

jggatlin wrote:The reports I saw categorized this establishment as a "bar". If this is true, did it have a 51% sign? Because if so, the good guy was not in legal carry.

See my original post. Not a 51% location.

ScottDLS wrote:Hope the LTC wasn't intoxicated...

Law says 'impaired' - from what I can tell, there was no impairment to his use of his firearm. I would like to know how many shots fired vs how many hits. I'd bet his score compared favorably to that of most NYC cops.

Lambda Force wrote:

mojo84 wrote:I have never heard the term "breastaurant" before.

Maybe the reporter doesn't speak Spanish and confused the Alitas featured on their website for a neighboring part of the chicken.

Breastaraunt is used to describe restaurants such as Hooters, Redneck Heaven, etc.

E10 wrote:

ScottDLS wrote:Hope the LTC wasn't intoxicated...

Law says 'impaired' - from what I can tell, there was no impairment to his use of his firearm. I would like to know how many shots fired vs how many hits. I'd bet his score compared favorably to that of most NYC cops.

No the law says INTOXICATED just like for driving. I believe he fired two shots and both hit.

LAYGO wrote:

Vol Texan wrote:

Keith B wrote:

LAYGO wrote:This guy clearly hasn't thought out post-shoot logistics, representation, and SHUTTING YOUR MOUTH. :(

http://www.wfaa.com/news/two-shot-kille ... /436569576

Uh, I don't see in the link where he has said anyting other than 'he was in fear for his and other's lives'. You should provide basics on who you are, what happened and why you engsged. Sounds like he did. Nothing else is revealed that he may or may not have said.

I'm just guessing here, but I believe LAYGO may be referring to the video, where the LTC holder was talking with police officers. Myself, I think I would have said, "Officer, I don't feel really well right now, and I don't feel like talking." That is an unobtrusive way of saying, "I wish not to talk right now", and gets you the time you need to get representation.

EGG ZACK LEE™

In the video, the purported LTC & rescuer is smiling & having a conversation with the officers.

I have no problems with what he did, but law enforcement eventually might & do you really want this as your legacy on video?

[/quote]

The LTC probably never saw this video: "Don't Talk to the Police"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

If you are so clearly justified in shooting as it appears the LTC was, I wonder how much difference it's going to make whether you "lawyer up" or "yuck it up" with the cops initially at the scene. If the prosecutor really wants to go after you, your words are likely to get you in trouble when your "shoot" was questionable. I'd like to so hear about the cases where the defendant talking "made the difference" in what most would consider a good shoot.

It'd be interesting to hear Acevedo's comments on this incident. I bet he doesn't make a peep.